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German WWII bayonet

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:59 pm
by Dave 101
Heres a couple of German bayonets the top one I think is a Kar 98 dress bayonet , there is a piece of red felt in the channel for the lug , I bought this about 40 years ago , cant remember how much I paid for it . The blade is stamped at the hilt with WKC and a knights helm .

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The other one is about 3/4s of the size of the original not sure what it is maybe a presentation item , the blade is engreved feels to deep for etching .
N .V .T . R . A . M .
Dir. H. J. Rolleffzen .

If any one knows what that may mean I would like to know . My Father gave me this one he never did say where it came from .

Dave

Re: German WWII bayonet

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:47 pm
by Woftam
Can't help any with the markings but they're in good nick.

Re: German WWII bayonet

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:59 pm
by Dave 101
I have found out that WKC are the big makers from Solingen who took over Wilkinson , and the other one has a Dutch connection .

Dave

Re: German WWII bayonet

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:49 pm
by Dutch Mosin
Here's what I found.

Part of an advertisement dated 1926.

It says:

Roelofzzen bros.
Auto garage T.R.A.M. (couldn't find the meaning of this abbreviation) Enschede (city in the North East of the Netherlands).
International telephone number 489, Hengeloseweg 120 (address)
Supply of all brands of automobiles and trucks.
Official Ford dealer (I don't think this needs explanation)

About H.J. Roelofzzen:
Mr. Roelofzzen had a bus service in the North East of the Netherlands.
He picked up workers in Germany and brought them to the textile factories in Enschede.
The bus service lasted until May 10th 1940.
On this date the Germans invaded our country and were in charge for 5 years.



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Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

Re: German WWII bayonet

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:57 pm
by Dave 101
Hello Martin .

Thank you for the information , most helpfull . Someone from another forum had a similar bit of info to you . Seeing that poster is great . Now I wonder what the item was for and why , its purely decorative perhaps a presentation item certainly has a German style to it .

Dave

Re: German WWII bayonet

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:17 am
by Dutch Mosin
Dave,

Roelofzzen is an uncommon but 100% Dutch name.
If you like I can try and contact some family members and ask some questions.

Problem is that I might ask a question that no one WANTS to answer.
Maybe it's from a period in time that the family likes to forget, but we don't know the answer to that question until we ask.

Let me know if you want me to try and contact some family members.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

Re: German WWII bayonet

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:28 am
by Dave 101
Hello Martin .

I certainly dont want to impose upon your time if you have other things to do , but if you can find any further information it would be appreciated .
Iam now wondering how my Father came by this item , as he never said , the only thing I can think of he got from hiis Father who was in the Royal Navy for 22 years including WWI , he would have travelled around a lot .
I have been having a close look at the item I dont think it was produced commercialy , the pommel is made in the flat and the 2 sides dont match as one is slightly longer than the other , one side shows more wear on the grips , but the quality of the blade and lettering is good .
I think it may have been a letter opener or desk ornament .
Thanks for your help

Dave