A FLASH IN THE PAN

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A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by DuncaninFrance » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:30 pm

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"Something which disappoints by failing to deliver anything of value, despite a showy beginning."

Origin
There's reason to believe that this phrase derives from the Californian Gold Rush of the mid 19th century. Prospectors who panned for gold supposedly became excited when they saw something glint in the pan, only to have their hopes dashed when it proved not to be gold but a mere 'flash in the pan'. This is an attractive and plausible notion, in part because it ties in with another phrase related to disappointment - 'it didn't pan out'. 'Panning out' can be traced to US prospectors and was used in that context by the early 20th century; for example, Paul Haworth's Trailmakers of the Northwest, 1921:
"The Colonel had told them that a cubic foot of gravel would pan out twenty dollars in gold."

Nevertheless, gold prospecting isn't the origin of 'a flash in the pan'. The phrase did have a literal meaning, i.e. it derives from a real flash in a real pan, but not a prospector's pan. Flintlock muskets used to have small pans to hold charges of gunpowder. An attempt to fire the musket in which the gunpowder flared up without a bullet being fired was a 'flash in the pan'.
The term has been known since the late 17th century.
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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by Niner » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:47 pm

When I am reminded of the California Gold Rush this ditty comes to mind

The minors came in 49
The whores in 51
They rolled upon the barroom floor
Then came the native s0n.

Sorry....couldn't resist the comment. :loco:
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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by DuncaninFrance » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:06 pm

What a strange person you are sometimes Robert :shock:
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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by Aughnanure » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:32 pm

Yeah! and why were underage kids being allowed in a bar room anyway?


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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by DuncaninFrance » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:02 pm

Good point Eoin................Happy New Year mate!
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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by Gatofeo » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:10 pm

Never heard the reference to a fleck of gold in a pan being responsible for "a flash in the pan."
I've always heard the origin attributed to a flintlock not firing its main load, after the priming powder in the pan went off.
I suspect that the California Gold Rush origin is a recent explanation, fostered by someone who didn't know the expression's true origin. Or, it could have been created out of Political Correctness, to avoid mentioning a (gasp!) firearm.

Similarly, "lock, stock and barrel" has been falsely attributed to a storekeeper's door lock, list of stock and barrels of merchandise.
In fact, it is reference to a rifle's lock, wooden stock and barrel.
Politicial Correctness creeps in.

Other weapon-related expressions include:

Shot in the dark -- Defined as a wild, unlikely chance. It stems from the unlikelihood of hitting a target unseen.

Big Bertha -- Anything large and ungainly, especially as a derogatory remark about a woman. It has its origins in the massive, long-range cannon used by the Germans to bombard Paris. The gunners named the gun, "Big Bertha" in honor of Frau Bertha Krupp von Hohine un Hohlbach, head of the Krupp steel works that manufactured the cannon and many other German weapons.

Gat -- A 1920s gangster expression, chiefly for a handgun, as in "Carmine carried a gat in his pocket." It stems from Dr. Richard Gatling, the inventor of the multi-barreled, rotating, hand-cranked "machine gun" often seen in Westerns. The Gatling system lives on today in the modern mini-gun with mutliple rotating barrels that is electrically driven.

Deringer - A small, short-barreled pistol having one to four barrels that fire with each pull of the trigger or cock of the hammer. It is not a revolver or a semi-auto.
It's commonly spelled as a Derringer, with two Rs, but the inventor was Henry Deringer (note the single R). When his 19th century single-shot pistols became popular, many began copying his design, often of inferior materials and design. To confuse the buyer into buying a cheaper pistol that appeared to be an authentic Deringer, the second R was added to the name stamped or engraved into the pistol.
Sadly, many dictionaries and other sources cite the double-R version as acceptable, and mark the single-R version as a misspelling.

Bayonet -- First produced in Bayonne, France. It may be the only weapon named for its place of origin. Others would argue that "Springfield" carries that distinction but that name describes a variety of weapons produced at the Springfield Arsenal, not one specific type of weapon.

Shrapnel -- Fragments from a hollow artillery shell that contains a powder charge, designed to be thrown off at high velocity when the charge explodes. Shrapnel is NOT fragments of brick, rock, metal or other objects thrown off by the shell's impact, contrary to what today's journalists and writers believe.
Shrapnel is named for Lt. Henry Shrapnel, a British officer who designed a hollow artillery shell containing a number of balls and a charge of powder to burst the shell.

I've often thought that it's a good thing he had such a harsh-sounding name.
What if the concept had been invented by a Lt. Rabinowitz?
We'd be reading war novels and news reports of, "The bomb went off, spraying the room with Rabinowitz."

And what if Samuel Colt or Oliver Winchester had been named Lipshitz or Shickelgruber?
We'd be watching Western movies and reading novels with, "Drop the Lipshitz Ringo, or my Shickelgruber will blow a hole in you."

Hardly the same, is it?
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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by Niner » Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:20 pm

Glad to see you could log in Gatofeo. Interesting comments on various terms and phrases in common usage that people confuse the meaning of. There are no doubt some more we can think of that we see every day on gun sites. Century International Arms used to always have a way of confusing the word "sell" and the word "sale" and had things "on sell" all the time.

Sorry Duncan, I'm the one that got this string off track to start with. :oops:
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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by DuncaninFrance » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:41 am

No problem Robert. Be interesting to continue the theme though. I will dig in and see what I find........................... :bigsmile:
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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by Niner » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:18 am

Some terms seem more meaningful the corrupted way and the original meaning is totally lost.

Like:

The saying...."It's cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey". The term came from the fighting days of sail, when cannon balls, being iron, contracted with the cold so much that they became loose in their brass tracks, 'the monkeys', and so fell off and rolled around the deck.

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Re: A FLASH IN THE PAN

Post by DuncaninFrance » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:41 am

I was just about to comment on that one Robert. here is what Snopes says about it.

Claim: "Brass monkeys" were small brass plates used to hold cannonballs on the decks of sailing ships.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]

Every sailing ship had to have cannon for protection. Cannon of the times required round iron cannonballs. The master wanted to store the cannon-balls such that they could be of instant use when needed, yet not roll around the gun deck. The solution was to stack them up in a square based
pyramid next to the cannon. The top level of the stack had one ball, the next level down had four, the next had nine, the next had sixteen, and so on. Four levels would provide a stack of 30 cannonballs. The only real problem was how to keep the bottom level from sliding out from under the weight of the higher levels. To do this, they devised a small brass plate ("brass monkey") with one rounded indentation for each cannonball in the bottom layer. Brass was used because the cannonballs wouldn't rust to the "brass monkey", but would rust to an iron one.

When temperature falls, brass contracts in size faster than iron. As it got cold on the gun decks, the indentations in the brass monkey would get smaller than the iron cannonballs they were holding. If the temperature got cold enough, the bottom layer would pop out of the indentations spilling the entire pyramid over the deck. Thus it was, quite literally, "cold enough to freeze the balls off a "brass monkey."


Origins: Somebody's fanciful imagination is at work cooking up spurious etymologies again. In short, this origin for the phrase "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey" is nonsense because:

Not even the venerable Oxford English Dictionary, records a usage of "brass monkey" like the one presented here.

When references to "brass monkeys" started appearing in print in the mid-19th century, they did not always mention balls or cold temperatures. It was sometimes cold enough to freeze the ears, tail, nose, or whiskers off a brass monkey. Likewise, it was sometimes hot enough to "scald the throat" or "singe the hair" of a brass monkey. These usages are inconsistent with the putative origins offered here.

Warships didn't store cannonballs (or "round shot") on deck around the clock, day after day, on the slight chance that they might go into battle. Space was a precious commodity on sailing ships, and decks were kept as clear as possible in order to allow room for hundreds of men to perform all the tasks necessary for ordinary ship's functions. (Stacking round shot on deck would also create the danger of their breaking free and rolling around loose on deck whenever the ship encountered rough seas.) Cannonballs were stored elsewhere and only brought out when the decks had been cleared for action.

Particularly diligent gunners (not "masters," who were in charge of navigation, sailing and pilotage, not ordnance) would have their crews chip away at imperfections on the surface of cannonballs to make them as smooth as possible, in the hopes that this would cause them to fly truer. They did not leave shot on deck, exposed to the elements, where it would rust.

Nobody really knows where the phrase "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey" came from, but the explanation offered here certainly isn't the answer. :GBR:
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