Kentucky long rifle question

Dutch Mosin · Post by **Dutch Mosin** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:58 pm

I bought a Hawken Woodsman not so very long ago.
One of the reasons I bought this rifle is that it has a hooked breech.
This makes cleaning the barrel a lot easier.

I was wondering if there is a Kentucky long rifle with a hooked breech.
As far as I know the barrels of these types of rifles are all "pinned".

Any info is most welcome.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

Post by **DuncaninFrance** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:27 pm

Martin, have you got the Hawken yet I thought it was due about mid March

Dutch Mosin · Post by **Dutch Mosin** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:02 pm

DuncaninFrance wrote:Martin, have you got the Hawken yet I thought it was due about mid March

Yes Duncan, that was the plan but we had to change it.
We had to postpone our trip to Germany for two weeks to the end of March.
These things sometimes happen.

But......all the paperwork is in order and the dealer told me that the Hawken is waiting for me.
The only thing I have to do now is wait for about two weeks.

I'll keep you posted and will post a full report when I'm back.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

Post by **Niner** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:20 pm

Martin, the reproduction Kentucky rifles, at least like mine, that was made in Spain aren't pinned. It takes down pretty easy. The thing you have to be careful about is not losing the small set screws that join the cleaning rod holders through the stock to the barrel and hold everything together on the middle and front end. The tang end of the barrel is firmly screwed down through the stock to the trigger guard and anchors the barrel at the lock end and takes most of the load off of the smaller screws.

Post by **Niner** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:25 pm

Neglected to show that the rear rod holder stays with the stock after the screw is removed from the barrel.

Dutch Mosin · Post by **Dutch Mosin** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:29 pm

Thanks again Robert.
So it's no problem taking the rifle down every time you return from the range????
Doesn't the barrel loosen very easily after having taken it down many times???

If it's no problem taking it down every time and the barrel doesn't loosen easily I will buy myself a Spanish or Italian reproduction of a Kentucky long rifle in cal .45.
I just love the look of those rifles.

I noticed that the stock on your rifle isn't full length.
Does it stay fixed 100% or should I look for one with a full length stock??

Thanks for the info and sharing the pictures Robert.
I don't even have the Hawken yet and I already know what my next buy will be.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

Post by **Niner** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:38 pm

There is no problem with the way the barrel is joined to the stock after firing. There is a problem with the two piece stock in that after firing several times it tends to pull apart slightly at the joint. However, a little extra glue helps to correct the problem. And this may not be a problem except with mine...but couldn't say. Back when I was noticing the problem after a dozen or so shots I'd just hit the butt of the rifle on a sand bag and it would come back together....about like hitting the butt of a hammer handle to force the head back down on the shaft back when people used wooden handled hammers.

Actually I love this rifle. I made it from a kit ages ago. It is a real accurate rifle as my BP rifles go. It's 50 caliber by the way.

Dutch Mosin · Post by **Dutch Mosin** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:49 pm

Niner wrote:There is no problem with the way the barrel is joined to the stock after firing. There is a problem with the two piece stock in that after firing several times it tends to pull apart slightly at the joint. However, a little extra glue helps to correct the problem. And this may not be a problem except with mine...but couldn't say. Back when I was noticing the problem after a dozen or so shots I'd just hit the butt of the rifle on a sand bag and it would come back together....about like hitting the butt of a hammer handle to force the head back down on the shaft back when people used wooden handled hammers.

Actually I love this rifle. I made it from a kit ages ago. It is a real accurate rifle as my BP rifles go. It's 50 caliber by the way.

Thanks Robert.
I guess that a 2-piece stock isn't that much of a problem then.
I'll pick up the Hawken in a week or two and then start looking for a Kentucky long rifle.
I'll keep you posted.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

Post by **DuncaninFrance** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:08 pm

I think you should look for one in .50" calibre Martin, you need experience both calibres

Dutch Mosin · Post by **Dutch Mosin** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:32 pm

Mmmmm, good point Duncan.
I'll think about it.
My decision to go for a cal .45 rifle is the use of Pyrodex P.
According to an E-mail I received from Hodgdon I can use this powder up to a caliber of .45.

However............a rifle in cal .50...............sounds fantastic.

I'll keep it in mind.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

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