Kentucky rifle at the range today
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
Thanks Robert and Duncan for your replies.
I really enjoyed myself and I think muzzle loading is here to stay.
What a fantastic part of our hobby this is.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
I really enjoyed myself and I think muzzle loading is here to stay.
What a fantastic part of our hobby this is.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
Been to the range this morning.
Tried the Hawken again but with two different loads.
Last week I started with 40gn of Pyrodex P.
Today I reduced that load to 39 and 38gn.
Results were a bit better.
Almost all shots were at the right height, but mostly to the right.
No cleaning until the 5th shot gave bad results
I noticed that after swabbing the bore every 2nd shot results got better.
So.............same player shoots again next week.
I will reduce the load further to 36 and 35gn of Pyrodex P.
I just love this muzzle loader.
I will also try Windex (called Glassex over here) to clean between shots.
I will keep you all posted.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
Tried the Hawken again but with two different loads.
Last week I started with 40gn of Pyrodex P.
Today I reduced that load to 39 and 38gn.
Results were a bit better.
Almost all shots were at the right height, but mostly to the right.
No cleaning until the 5th shot gave bad results
I noticed that after swabbing the bore every 2nd shot results got better.
So.............same player shoots again next week.
I will reduce the load further to 36 and 35gn of Pyrodex P.
I just love this muzzle loader.
I will also try Windex (called Glassex over here) to clean between shots.
I will keep you all posted.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
Martin.
I always wipe my Remington revolver over with car screenwash between cylinders but having changed from Chasse powder (FF) to FFF I find the bore stays clean although I do pull it through a few times before going home.
I always wipe my Remington revolver over with car screenwash between cylinders but having changed from Chasse powder (FF) to FFF I find the bore stays clean although I do pull it through a few times before going home.
Duncan
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? -- W.C. Fields
"Many of those who enjoy freedom know little of its price."
You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something.
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? -- W.C. Fields
"Many of those who enjoy freedom know little of its price."
You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something.
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
Thanks for the info Duncan.DuncaninFrance wrote:Martin.
I always wipe my Remington revolver over with car screenwash between cylinders but having changed from Chasse powder (FF) to FFF I find the bore stays clean although I do pull it through a few times before going home.
I tried windex(it's called glasex over here) after every 2nd shot with great results yesterday.
I have to try how WD-40 works for me next time.
After that I'll try some car screenwash.
Pyrodex P can be compared to a FFF powder.
I only need a couple of patches to clean the bore.
I reduced the load to 30 gn yesterday and results were much, much better then I expected.
Some data:
Powder: 30gn Pyrodex P
Bullet: 125gn .440 H&N bullet.
Patch: OX-YOKE pre oiled 0.01" thick
No picture of the target this time.
I had no camera with me.
Got some rangetime coming up next Thursday.
I'll post a picture of the target then.
What a fantastic hobby we have.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
OK, it's been a while since my last post on the Hawken Woodsman.
Last week I loaded the weapon and it wouldn't fire.
Turned out that I forgot to fire 2 or 3 caps before loading it.
There was still to much oil in the nipple and maybe even a bit in the barrel.
I had to remove the bolsterscrew and put a bit of FFFFG powder in it.
That worked, but I can tell you that I will never forget to fire a couple of caps before I load the rifle.
Today was totally different.
I tried a new load and instead of just pushing the ball and patch down the barrel I pushed it down using a dry patch.
The pre oiled patches contain a lot of oil and the first shots were always on target, so I thought I'd use this dry patch when pushing down the ball and at the same time get rid of a bit of oil in the barrel.
That worked.
Results were much better compared to last time.
Here's today's target picture.
Some load data first.
Rifle: Ardesa(Traditions) Hawken Woodsman.
Caliber: .45
Twist: 1:66"
Bullet: 125gn .440" Roundball
Patch: OL-YOKE 0.01" pre oiled (thanks Duncan)
Powder: 26gn Pyrodex P
Distance: 50 meters
I just love this rifle.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
Last week I loaded the weapon and it wouldn't fire.
Turned out that I forgot to fire 2 or 3 caps before loading it.
There was still to much oil in the nipple and maybe even a bit in the barrel.
I had to remove the bolsterscrew and put a bit of FFFFG powder in it.
That worked, but I can tell you that I will never forget to fire a couple of caps before I load the rifle.
Today was totally different.
I tried a new load and instead of just pushing the ball and patch down the barrel I pushed it down using a dry patch.
The pre oiled patches contain a lot of oil and the first shots were always on target, so I thought I'd use this dry patch when pushing down the ball and at the same time get rid of a bit of oil in the barrel.
That worked.
Results were much better compared to last time.
Here's today's target picture.
Some load data first.
Rifle: Ardesa(Traditions) Hawken Woodsman.
Caliber: .45
Twist: 1:66"
Bullet: 125gn .440" Roundball
Patch: OL-YOKE 0.01" pre oiled (thanks Duncan)
Powder: 26gn Pyrodex P
Distance: 50 meters
I just love this rifle.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
Certainly killed that one Martin!
Duncan
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? -- W.C. Fields
"Many of those who enjoy freedom know little of its price."
You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something.
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? -- W.C. Fields
"Many of those who enjoy freedom know little of its price."
You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something.
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
Very true Duncan, but I still want to try a .445 bullet instead of the .440 and see what happens.
After I have determined which bullet is best for my rifle, I will buy myself a LEE bullet mold and cast my own instead of buying the ones from H&N.
I've also ordered some patches that are slightly thicker then the ones I use now.
Maybe not necessary, but I just want to see what happens when I try a different patch bullet combo.
I'll keep you posted.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
After I have determined which bullet is best for my rifle, I will buy myself a LEE bullet mold and cast my own instead of buying the ones from H&N.
I've also ordered some patches that are slightly thicker then the ones I use now.
Maybe not necessary, but I just want to see what happens when I try a different patch bullet combo.
I'll keep you posted.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
I took my Hawken Woodsman to the range today.
Been trying different kind of loads, patches and lube in the last couple of months.
In the end I only changed the patches from 0.010" to 0.012" and lubed them with a mixture of Nivea and Ballistol.
I used the target in the picture for an on line muzzle loader match on a German site.
13 shots, best 10 count (just just like the matches I shoot on Dutch ranges).
Shot number 13 landed in the 5 just outside the picture.
Results are not bad......I think.
I love this rifle.
Should have bought one years ago.
Load data:
Rifle: Ardesa(Traditions) Hawken Woodsman.
Caliber: .45
Twist: 1:66"
Bullet: 125gn .440" Roundball
Patch: 0.012"
Lube: Nivea/Ballistol mixture
Powder: 26gn Pyrodex P
Distance: 50 meters
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
Been trying different kind of loads, patches and lube in the last couple of months.
In the end I only changed the patches from 0.010" to 0.012" and lubed them with a mixture of Nivea and Ballistol.
I used the target in the picture for an on line muzzle loader match on a German site.
13 shots, best 10 count (just just like the matches I shoot on Dutch ranges).
Shot number 13 landed in the 5 just outside the picture.
Results are not bad......I think.
I love this rifle.
Should have bought one years ago.
Load data:
Rifle: Ardesa(Traditions) Hawken Woodsman.
Caliber: .45
Twist: 1:66"
Bullet: 125gn .440" Roundball
Patch: 0.012"
Lube: Nivea/Ballistol mixture
Powder: 26gn Pyrodex P
Distance: 50 meters
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
Good shooting. Nice tight group for a muzzleloader.
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Re: Kentucky rifle at the range today
You are certainly enjoying yourself Martin!
I remember back in the early 90's in the UK that a friend of mine had a BP rifle.
He used to save the old chip pan fat when it was done and use it as a lube.
He used to wrap the ball in a piece of IZAL Medicated toilet paper and then dip it in the liquid fat and then let it dry.
IZAL used to be included in 24 Rationpacks. I remember a National Guard Sergeant on exchange one year saying " Man, I want to wipe it not spread it!"
Later all military toilet paper became 'Cumfybum' but was pink! A great colour for DPM clad grunts
I remember back in the early 90's in the UK that a friend of mine had a BP rifle.
He used to save the old chip pan fat when it was done and use it as a lube.
He used to wrap the ball in a piece of IZAL Medicated toilet paper and then dip it in the liquid fat and then let it dry.
IZAL used to be included in 24 Rationpacks. I remember a National Guard Sergeant on exchange one year saying " Man, I want to wipe it not spread it!"
Later all military toilet paper became 'Cumfybum' but was pink! A great colour for DPM clad grunts
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Duncan
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? -- W.C. Fields
"Many of those who enjoy freedom know little of its price."
You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something.
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? -- W.C. Fields
"Many of those who enjoy freedom know little of its price."
You can't fix Stupid, but you can occasionally head it off before it hurts something.