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100MPH Steam loco

Postby PeterN2 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:55 pm

On a test run last night, class A1 pacific 60163 Tornado became the first steam locomotive to run at over 100mph in the UK since the 1960s. This is a new build locomotive completed in 2008. All the original locos were scrapped in the 1960s but a group of people built a new loco using the original drawings and numbered it the next in the series.
They want to run at 90mph in the future but are restricted to 75mph at present. The top speed achieved was 101.6mph.
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Re: 100MPH Steam loco

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:14 am

Saw it on the news yesterday Peter - awesome :D :D :D :D
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Re: 100MPH Steam loco

Postby Niner Delta » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:09 pm

Enjoyed reading about the Torando, amazing that they built it from scratch. Read that it runs on
coal, I would have thought it would be oil fired, obviously there is a good reason it's coal.
I was comparing it to the logging locomotives my grandfather ran. His was a little heavier but was a 2-6-6-2
compound Mallet with smaller drivers, 51" to the Tornado's 80". Guess you need smaller drivers for low
speed pulling power and need 80" to go 100mph..... :D
It certainly is a great looking piece of machinery, but can't decide if I like it painted green or blue..... :cool:



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Re: 100MPH Steam loco

Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:12 am

I would vote Blue Vern but then Blue was Mallard's colour.
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Re: 100MPH Steam loco

Postby Niner » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:06 am

Burning coal would be a big environmentalist no no. However.....our new President is a hands off coal kind of guy and it could have a life in the US. I think it's a really fine looking engine. But I wouldn't volunteer to be a passenger in any train car it's pulling at over 100 mph. Any vehicle that is controlled by a guy who has to look out a side window to see what's down the track isn't all that safe at any speed. :shock:
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Re: 100MPH Steam loco

Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:29 am

It wasn't in the UK that the Wreck of the Old 97 happened you know :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: 100MPH Steam loco

Postby PeterN2 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:49 pm

Niner, the run was done at night so the driver wouldn't be able to see anything anyway except the signal lights. All the preserved steam locomotives in the UK run on coal as far as I know. Oil firing has never been popular in the UK. Experiments with oil firing were carried out in the steam days, but I think all were converted back to coal firing.
The scheduled timings of the run attached.
The group that built Tornado are now on with building a Gresley P2 2-8-2 from scratch.
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Re: 100MPH Steam loco

Postby Niner » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:59 pm

Oh well...that's different. If a train engineer can't see anything and it's done at night. Perfectly safe. :bigsmile:

In the US there are about 2000 railroad crossing accidents a year. A mere drop in the bucket considering all the train crossings and number of trains there must be. Then of course there are the derailing accidents.

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Re: 100MPH Steam loco

Postby PeterN2 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:22 pm

That is a lot of fatalities at railroad crossings. In 2015-16 we had three fatalities at level crossings. Almost all our level crossings have gates or barriers that prevent road traffic going onto the crossing when a train is approaching. I have seen on train videos that in the US a lot of crossings seem to have a cross sign and bell ringing but no barriers and the train blowing its horn repeatedly as it approaches the crossing. It would seem that some people must try to beat the train over the crossing and lose.
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