Jaipur quasi Type A HEIC Musket

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Jaipur quasi Type A HEIC Musket

Post by DuncaninFrance » Fri May 27, 2016 10:58 am

Coming soon to a gun rack near me!


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It was a Brown Bess, probably of the Company's Pattern as evinced by the lock plate. In time it was no longer needed by the Company and was probably broken up into parts. The brass sold or for remelt. The stock probably unfit for use but the barrel and lock were in adequate order. By the 1860's the Company had been replaced by the East India Government and they had no use for the Company arms being determined to use Ordnance Pattern arms. At the same time the Maharajah of Jaipur was updating his countries industries. In particular he had a first class armoury with skilled gun smiths so he bought in the steel parts being sold off by the Government.

In the Jaipur Armoury the Bess barrel had a new nipple lump forged and brazed to the barrel. Much as the East India Company had with it's Type A and B muskets. The Company marked flintlock was modified to percussion with a new hammer etc. and the two fitted together in a new hardwood stock. The Pattern 1853 Rifle Musket was the new 'cool' weapon of the era in India and the Jaipur Armoury patterned new brass furniture on the Pattern 1853 shape and this all formed a new Jaipur Pattern Percussion Musket of about 1860. Made with sound workmanship and well finished.

These first began appearing in the antique markets in the 1970's when Westley Richards bought a huge lot of them from the Jaipur Armoury. They were not alone in buying up the contents of Indian armouries and some dubious attributions made in the trade brought these types of weapons into disrepute as fake Tower guns.

(HEIC = Honorable East India Company)
Detail and pictures from the seller who is a friend of mine.
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Re: Jaipur quasi Type A HEIC Musket

Post by DuncaninFrance » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:56 am

Am picking it up on Friday. We are meeting , with wives, for lunch near to Angoulêm.


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Looks like some serious meat is available :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Re: Jaipur quasi Type A HEIC Musket

Post by Niner » Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:55 pm

The 38 Euro menu:
Refer to the table 1st page. Consolidated figures Allergens
A CHOICE
FOIE GRAS HALF BAKED HOMEMADE
PINEAU AND THE COGNAC
4 SMOKED TROUT WITH HOMEMADE CREAMY ZUCCHINI
7 CASSOLETTE THE SNAIL CREAM VEINED
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A CHOICE
THE DUCK BREAST GRID
4 EELS FRIED with parsley
3 THE GRILLED STEAK SAUCE BEARNAISE SHALLOTS
July 2 THE TAILS OF SCAMPI CASSOLETTE
THE PINEAU AND CURRY
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A CHOICE
7 THE CHEESE TRAY
May 7, 10 SALAD GOAT HOT
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A CHOICE
March 7 COFFEE OR CHOCOLATE LIEGEOIS
July 3 STRAWBERRIES MELBA
3 7The PROFITEROLES CHOCOLATE
July 1 BUFFET OF DESSERTS AT WILL
1 3 7 THE PANCAKE ICE VANILLA ON FRUIT JELLY
ENGLISH AND CREAM
Well... that's some high class eating. Think I'd skip the eels fired with parsley.
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Re: Jaipur quasi Type A HEIC Musket

Post by Niner Delta » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:13 pm

The meat certainly looks good to me. What are the round items you take by the slice,
those look interesting also. My guess is that you won't go hungry......... :mrgreen:
Great food and a new rifle, that's a win-win day.... :D




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Re: Jaipur quasi Type A HEIC Musket

Post by Niner » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:05 pm

And Duncan is always saying how he's a Yorkshireman and proud of being a cheapskate. I know he is going to pick up the tab for sure for all that fine French gourmay cooking. :bigsmile:
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Re: Jaipur quasi Type A HEIC Musket

Post by DuncaninFrance » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:45 am

Niner wrote:And Duncan is always saying how he's a Yorkshireman and proud of being a cheapskate. I know he is going to pick up the tab for sure for all that fine French gourmay cooking. :bigsmile:
You could just be right Robert..........mine will be the steak of lamb :D :D
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Re: Jaipur quasi Type A HEIC Musket

Post by DuncaninFrance » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:44 pm

26 June 2016 BRITISH MILITARIA FORUM Comp. :GBR:
13 Shots allowed on target, 10 to count.

HEIC Musket - 0.690 calibre patched ball – 124 grains Vectan Chasse / ffg. First time on the range with this musket.

SCORE:
1 x 0 = 0
1 x 1 = 1
1 x 2 = 2
1 x 3 = 3
2 x 4 = 8
1 X 5 = 5
1 X 6 = 6
2 X 7 = 14
TOTAL 39


Total rounds fired on the day 18 – 4 were very high passing through a wooden baffle at 30 mtrs. Sights need attention!

A very enjoyable afternoon’s shooting. It’s a great piece


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