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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:21 pm

Maybe it was a timed fuse on "fuse delay" and it ricocheted off rock before exploding. Didn't you ever use any of them Vern? They were my fuse of choice when bringing it in real close. When they went into the ground before exploding the kill radius was limited and not as likely to kill any friendlies when I wasn't sure how close I was bringing it. They were also good for bunkers.
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:09 am

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A most interesting read which I can highly recommend for anyone with an interest in WWI. It can also be used as a spot reference book.
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner Delta » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:24 pm

Yes, I remember using "fuse delay" quite a bit. And when firing them, it was a regular point
detonation fuse that had a screw head on the side of the fuse that you gave a 1/4 turn for the
delay. But if I remember correctly, the delay was only about 1/4 second or less.
And why a delay fuse when practice shooting at mountainside, whole thing sounds fishy to me...... ;)

And speaking of books...... Just got this in the mail, haven't even had a chance to look at it yet.
A big book, 11" x 10" x 1"+ thick and a LOT of photos. The VFW was selling them, actually ordered it
several months ago and they finally got them printed.


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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:25 pm

Yes, I remember using "fuse delay" quite a bit. And when firing them, it was a regular point
detonation fuse that had a screw head on the side of the fuse that you gave a 1/4 turn for the
delay. But if I remember correctly, the delay was only about 1/4 second or less.


I never knew how long a delay there was but it was enough to bury the round into the ground before it exploded. Maybe the story in the paper wasn't even real...or the gun crew actually weren't very good at deflection numbers and the projectile bouncing off the mountain was just a lie. It was a long time ago in any case. Whatever. And we'll never know the name of the white ladies maid either. :roll:
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Postby Niner » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:27 pm

Send the "Sammies" plenty of free tobacco. They can't smoke those European cigarettes. Makes them sick. Buying soldiers tobacco is a big national charity project.... but nobody will sell them a drink in the US or over seas. .. it's sinful and unhealthy as well as might make them drunk! Just healthy smoking for our boys. :shock: What they are doing in New York as an example.

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Postby Niner » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:49 am

First mention in the news of the "Rainbow Division".

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Postby Niner » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:20 pm

Pope proposes peace suggestion. Nobody is buying it. The allies think Pope is shill for Austria and Germany.

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Postby Niner » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:57 pm

Well....at least no neo-Nazi's or KKK members....nor militia members. And for sure....no statues of Robert E. Lee.

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Postby Niner » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:22 am

A German language newspaper in Detroit goes against the tide in an editorial cartoon. The US hadn't killed anybody yet and had gone to a lot of trouble to get ready for it. The US wasn't in any mood for any peace talk. It wanted to kill some Germans right along with France, England and the rest of the Triple Entente.

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Postby Niner » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:54 pm

The "right" side. Opposition to the war was not an option. Those against the war were abetting "brute force" and weren't good Americans.....maybe even traitors. Including, of course, the German American press in the bottom right.

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Postby Niner » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:45 am

Remember the movie of Turner Classic Movie vintage with the title of The Fighting 69th? The actual regiment is a New York National Guard unit with a long history. Back when the war was new to the US they got a rousing send off.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIwQDVPJ6kY

The story.
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Postby Niner » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:47 pm

The latest directive for the Army in the US.
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What they needed six handkerchief's for is anybodies guess.
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Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:07 am

Only for issue to the Italian army :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Niner » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:16 am

In Vietnam soldiers in the delta didn't carry any of that stuff. We didn't even wear underwear so what would we have needed an extra pair for. Socks in the rainy season would only give you trench foot or ringworm. I got more than a feeling that when troops reached the real war much of that civilian army "field" flotsam would have been jettisoned.
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Postby Niner » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:08 pm

A story that doesn't go along with history. "Fake News" of the 1917 version. The Washington Herald posted this attached story but the real story for the SMS Seeadler... a sailing ship from the clipper ship era that was a famous German Raider is different. No telling what the newspaper account is really about.

On 2nd August 1917, she ran aground on a reef at the island of Mopelia. With a crew of five, Kapitänleutnant Felix von Luckner set sail in an 32-foot launch for the Fiji Islands. On arrival at Wakaya Island they were taken prisoners.
The 58 crew remaining at Mopelia captured the French schooner Lutece of 126 tons on 5th September 1917 and sailed to Easter Island as Fortuna under the command of Lieutenant Alfred Kling. On 4th October they arrived and ran aground again 2 days later at Hanga Roa. On 13th February 1918 the crew sailed again on the Chilean schooner Falcon to Talcahuano, Chile arriving 4th March. There they were interned by the Chilean Government.


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Postby Niner » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:45 am

Now here is how to win a war. Another bright idea.

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Postby Niner » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:59 am

Believe it .....or NOT. Inquiring minds want to know.

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Postby DuncaninFrance » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:52 pm

I think I would be more worried about my buried cabbages :loco: :loco:
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Postby Niner » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:42 pm

The Russian army is having a problem with esprit de corps ....and they like to shoot their Regimental commanders too. A little thing like a revolution plays hell with waging war against Germany.
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Postby Niner » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:35 pm

Wilson answers the Pope's peace proposal with revealingly blunt point of view that no peace will come with the current German government as the US and it's allies hold them in complete contempt. He suggests, through the statement made by his Secretary of State, that the "German People" should rise up and form some kind of alternate government if there is to be any kind of negotiated peace. And....eventually....after the war....they did....and got busy on the next war.

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Postby Niner » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:57 pm

And as Barney fife would later say to prisoners of the Mayberry jail. "Here at the rock, the first rule is to obey all Rules!"

It must have been a bit of a culture shock when black solders from the North suddenly found themselves in Alabama for training to fight for liberty and justice for all. Of course, back home in Columbus or Chillicothe it probably wasn't all that hail fellow well met either down at the YMCA or on the main floor of the local theater.

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Postby Niner Delta » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:21 pm

"rules of the South"......Well, wasn't that a real nice name for what it really was.....

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Postby Niner » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:12 pm

It's a good thing they noticed this little problem before going into the trenches.

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Postby Niner » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:34 pm

America really liked rich people back in those days and reported on anything they did including who they divorced or who they married or who they visited or who visited them. It was almost like having real royalty .....which we lacked.... which old Europe didn't lack but probably wished they did....but unfortunately , at the same time, causing some people with money here to feel second class for lack of engraved in stone status. But the large city newspapers sympathized and offered soul balm. So when the rich wife of a railroad baron charges people to see one of their estates and gives $500 from the proceeds from admissions to the tobacco fund it was news worthy...and maybe commendable by the standards of the time. A meager $500? Seems ridiculous even for a hundred years ago to make anything of it. At least the Washington Post seemed to think it was important because of the money royaltiy.

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Postby DuncaninFrance » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:31 am

You would be surprised what it was worth......

$500.00 in 1917 had the same buying power as $10,406.55 in 2017

Anyway, she didn't actually give it did she, the visitors to Georgian Court did :roll: :roll:
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Postby Niner » Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:33 pm

Now picture this..... and believe it or not. Toscanini went on to be even more famous.. but not for this sort of thing.

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Postby Niner » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:54 pm

Why do I hear the President's own Marine band, directed by John Philip Sousa himself, playing "Onward Christian Soldiers" as I read these stories?

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner Delta » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:14 pm

Gee, that reminds me of what LBJ said when he sent me to Nam.......... :loco: :loco:

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