December 7th - Lest We Forget

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Post by Niner Delta » Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:16 pm

Thanks to Pearl Harbor Day, I never forget my wedding anniversary.

40 years today. :shock:

I was stationed at Scofield Barracks on our first anniversary, so we went to the Arizona and dropped flowers in the water. A very somber experience. And yes, we saw the bubbles of oil floating up.



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Post by Woftam » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:52 am

Certainly a day to remember. Thankfully we have nothing similar to remember in Australia.

Can anyone tell me what the structures on the Arizona are ? The dock and Memorial are obvious but what are the other three structures ?
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Re: December 7th - Lest We Forget

Post by oneshooter » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:18 pm

Those are the concrete piers that the ships were tied to. There are a row of them and each ship was tied to two of them, bow and stern. These were known as "Battleship Row".

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Re: December 7th - Lest We Forget

Post by Woftam » Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:24 am

Thanks for that. I had assumed they were something like that but it's nice to actually know.
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Re: December 7th - Lest We Forget

Post by riptidenj » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:17 pm

The first picture is of the USS West Virginia-there was no dreadnought battleship USS Virginia.
One of the ironies that only 5 ships were destroyed-the Arizona, the Oklahoma, and 3 destroyers-the old battleship Utah was a target ship. The machinery from one of the destroyers was salvaged for use in a new ship.
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Re: December 7th - Lest We Forget

Post by Niner Delta » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:45 pm

Actually, there was a battleship, USS Virginia.




USS Virginia
Career (United States)
Laid down: 21 May 1902
Launched: 6 April 1904
Commissioned: 7 May 1906
Decommissioned: 13 August 1920
Fate: Sunk as bombing target 1923
General characteristics
Displacement: 14,980 tons (13,590 tonnes)
Length: 435 ft (133 m) (waterline) ; 441.25 ft (134.49 m) (overall)
Beam: 76.25 ft (23.24 m)
Draft: 23.8 ft (7.3 m)
Installed power: 25,463 ihp (18,988 kW)
Propulsion: 12 × Babcock boilers,
2 × triple expansion engines,
2 × screws
Speed: 19 kn (22 mph; 35 km/h)
Capacity: Coal: 900 tons (normal); 1,995 tons (maximum)
Complement: 916 officers and enlisted
Armament: 4 × 12 in (300 mm)/40 cal guns, 8 × 8 in (200 mm)/45 cal guns, 8 × 3 in (76 mm)/50 cal guns, 2 × 3 in (76 mm)/23 cal AA guns, 24 × 1-pounders (37 mm (1.5 in), 4 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) machine guns, 4 × 21 in (530 mm) torpedo tubes
Armor:

* Belt: 8 to 11 in (200 to 280 mm) (amidships); 4 in (100 mm) (ends)
* Deck: 3 in (76 mm) (flat on belt amidships)
* Barbettes: 7.5 to 10 in (190 to 250 mm)
* Turrets: 8 to 11 in (200 to 280 mm) (primary); 6 in (150 mm) (secondary)
* Conning Tower: 9 in (230 mm)


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Re: December 7th - Lest We Forget

Post by oneshooter » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:37 am

That is a "Pre-dreadnought" class battleship. The Dreadnought was a totally new design using all centerline main turrets.
The ship is the USS West Virginia ( BB48)

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Re: December 7th - Lest We Forget

Post by DuncaninFrance » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:47 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Dreadnought

There have been 9 HMS Dreadnoughts :GBR: :GBR: :GBR: :GBR:
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Re: December 7th - Lest We Forget

Post by riptidenj » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:19 pm

HMS Dreadnought was the first "all big gun" battleship. It had wing turrets. I am pretty sure the US pioneered the use of centerline turrets and superimposed turrets.
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