THE FIRST WORLD WAR as reported in the daily news

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:18 pm

Can you imagine one of Trump's sons...

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Shortly after the United State declared war on Germany, much to the chagrin of his mother, Vanderbilt enlisted in the U.S. Army in July 1917, at the age of 19. He was originally assigned to the headquarters of the ammunition train of the 27th Division of the New York National Guard, commanded by Major General John F. O'Ryan.[3] His first posting was in Spartanburg, South Carolina where he was a wagoner driving mules. [4] As this assignment was not to his liking, Vanderbilt made a deal with General O'Ryan's orderly into changing his orders to go with the division overseas. In exchange, Vanderbilt became the orderly's assistant and helped with various chores. [5]

He went overseas with the division in May 1918 aboard the transport Great Northern. Upon arriving in Brest, France, he was assigned as an orderly to the commander of the U.S. Army stockade there. Vanderbilt disliked his commander, whom he referred to as "my torturer". By chance, he was able to get a temporary assignment as driver to General Douglas Haig, the commander of the British forces in France. He got the posting when he was in a group of soldiers who asked if anyone knew how to drive a Rolls Royce. Vanderbilt raised his hand since his family only used Rolls-Royces and he was familiar with the peculiarities of their operation. [6]

After his posting with General Haig, Vanderbilt was reassigned to the 27th Division's headquarters where he served as a driver delivering dispatches. While driving on one mission, Vanderbilt had a near fatal accident.

Vanderbilt's father was promoted to brigadier general in July 1918 and was reassigned as a brigade commander at Camp Lewis in Washington state. Both Vanderbilts returned to the United States in August 1918 after three months of service in France. The younger Vanderbilt was promoted to the rank of wagoner (equivalent to a corporal) on August 24th and served as a transportation instructor at American Lake, near Camp Lewis for the remainder of his military service.

Vanderbilt was honorably discharged from the Army on January 25, 1919. [7][8][9] Shortly thereafter, he was promoted to 2nd lieutenant of the Infantry branch in the Officers Reserve Corps. [10]


He went on to go through seven wives and wrote books and made films and squandered some money he probably didn't earn.
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:51 am

Those low life Germans would stoop to any subterfuge. A case of wire nails to Sweden from the US.. the same Sweden with great reserves of iron ore .. was found to have heavy lead heads that could be melted down to make bullets. And.. just recently, coincidentally, it was discovered that the neutral Sweden had allowed Germany to use their diplomatic lines of communications to pass messages. Sweden was not very well liked in the US at the moment and this would have been a story that produced no questions.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:19 pm

So this American guy was in the Lafayette Escadrille and he had this little problem back home.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:48 pm

World Series coming. Tickets are going to be cheap.. .. by today's standard....and there will be a repeat game at an Army camp.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:52 am

$5 is $93.75 today...............
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:44 am

World Series ticket prices in 2016.
If you hope to see the Chicago Cubs vs. the Cleveland Indians in-person in the 2016 World Series, you're going to have a pay a lot, especially for the games in Chicago.

As of late Monday, online ticket broker StubHub had tickets for Tuesday's Game 1 in Cleveland ranging from $724 for standing-room only up to nearly $8,000 for box seats behind the Cubs' dugout. Tickets for Game 2 ranged from $714 to $6,500.

Prices go up considerably for games at Chicago's Wrigley Field, which has not hosted a World Series game since 1945. Tickets for Game 3 Friday began at $1,908 for standing-room only and ranged up to nearly $20,000 for seats directly behind home plate.

Tickets for the Wrigley Field rooftops -- which do not even include stadium access -- were on sale for more than $1,000. Parking passes nearly a mile away from Wrigley Field were on sale beginning at $33.

The Cubs will also host Game 4 Saturday and, if necessary, Game 5 Sunday. Those tickets were also on sale beginning at nearly $2,000.


And if you consider that now days we have HD TV coverage with multi camera view and instant replay that people can watch for nothing against 1917 with no TV and no radio, today's prices for World Series tickets are for the affluent only. Maybe that's why baseball has lost ground in the percentage of Americans that are rabid fans. A guy slinging hash or selling shoes can't afford to see a World Series game...unlike back then when a ticket wasn't as far out of reach.
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:04 am

We were warned. So says a Senator from Illinois. Seems he thought Admiral Dewy had found his Nostradamus back a couple of decades before and nobody had noticed.... except the Senator...somewhat belatedly... it seems.

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The profit would have come closer to being omniscient if he said Germany was going to take Paris and then work on conquering England in about 40 years.
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:10 pm

US can draft them quick enough but giving all of them something to shoot with can't be done as fast.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:32 pm

My ass!
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:48 pm

When this war is over everything is going to be alright! The downtrodden proletariat, which hadn't become a byword for Communists yet, will lead the parade and the masters of evil will will be subjugated! A little wishful thinking couldn't hurt anything... could it? Meanwhile, elsewhere, William Randolph Hurst the newspaper publishing czar, was being pilloried for being a dupe of Imperial Germany and anti American.

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The cartoon brings to mind the famous Bill Mauldin cartoon....
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:01 pm

A soldier wrote his Clio Michigan newspaper to tell about Army life in camp at Soo Michigan up on the Canadian border.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:42 pm

In the news.....the crew of the famous German privateer SMS Seeadler , after an unfortunate mishap of grounding, commandeered a French ship that was later run aground as well. The famous raider was American to start with and stopped on the high seas by the British who planned to intern it and investigate the ownership further to the consternation of the American captain. However on the way to internment, under a British flag, the ship was captured by the Germans with help from the American captain who locked the British prize crew below decks......probably because he resented having his ship hijacked. The Germans released the Americans to a neutral country in gratitude and imprisoned the British prize crew. When I was a kid I had a kit model of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Seeadler_(1888)

But the newspaper account gets a little garbled. For one thing they call the raider the Sea leader. Seeadler means Sea Eagle....and you will note this raider was really a sailing ship with a motor... a lot like the Alabama in the Civil War. Von Luckner, the captain, was famous after the war and wrote his history of the voyage.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:15 pm

Now here is an idea that the local doctors that weren't going to war must have winced over.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:50 pm

Man gets 20 years in the pen for running his mouth against the war. The clincher was that he maintained that the American doughboys would be better at spreading syphilis among American Women than terrifying Germans. It didn't help that he had allegedly deserted from the British Army either.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:12 pm

John Bull is really smashing the Kaiser's army flat at Verdun. .....so says the cartoon in an American newspaper. Meanwhile... at the other end of the line ...the hammer....at Ypres.... it's a blood bath with mostly Australians, at the moment, getting into serious body counts as both sides attack and counter attack.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:10 am

British troops did not fight at Verdun .............
Australian troops fought in the 3rd Battle only..........
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:08 pm

No Americans had done any fighting just yet...but Goodwin's Weekly... "a thinking paper for thinking people" was doing a little thinking about how wonderful war was when God is on your side.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner Delta » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:23 pm

Written by a person that has obviously never been in combat. Any combat veteran knows that
all the "glory" shit goes out the window when the first shot is fired.


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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:10 pm

US has refined it's draft plan. Single men first...and low life married men who live off their wives or don't support their children....or maybe don't go to church on Sunday also included. Five levels of potential drafted talent from most likely to only if hell freezes over likely.

Officers of states or United states are in category five ...naturally. People who made the rules didn't want to draft any political office holders. The elected officials who made the rules were needed out of harms way....... to continue to make up the rules.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:59 pm

Big bond push on in October of 1917. Buy a Liberty savings bond in the Liberty Loan drive and equip a soldier..... sorta equip. No uniforms, hats, boots, socks, underwear, leggings, canteens, canteen covers, back packs, blanket rolls, rations, first aid bandages, rain gear, coats, etc, etc, etc.

Not sure what "transportation" cost is....probably it's the shipping and handling charge of the items getting them to the Army.

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Check out this link with the full list of equipment a "Sammy" went to war with.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner Delta » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:02 pm

I think $3 is way too much for that worthless helmet........ :roll:

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:32 pm

It's Liberty Bond day all over America. A Seattle paper fills the whole front page....less an almost second thought headline.
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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:59 pm

Some American soldiers are in the front line trenches for the first time. The first artillery round is fired by an American and the shell case is going to Wilson for his edification and amusement.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:46 am

Connect the dots. The US isn't very good at it. The Liberty Bond drive was a big success. Fuel for the war is something they take pride in. But American "Sammie's" haven't gotten into it beyond brief visits to quiet parts of the front line as instruction....yet. Both images from front page of one newspaper.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:10 am

Inventions of war ideas are pouring in. This was before the military industrial state had gotten so strong that Eisenhower warned about it in the 50's. By the end of WWII the industrial manufacturing segment had grown enormously and each had their own highly skilled R&D departments. This was still the age of individual genius like Edison and Bell......and Rube Goldberg.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:51 pm

Germans have a reassignment to submarine problem among the Navy personnel. It is dangerous duty for officers who have to break the news.

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:28 pm

After a successful 5 billion dollar war bond drive this is in the newspaper showing foreign lines of credit since the start of America's involvement.

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