THE FIRST WORLD WAR as reported in the daily news

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Re: THE FIRST WORLD WAR THREAD.

Postby Niner » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:37 pm

Russia has a revolution problem and the Entente powers have a new German fighting problem.

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Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:40 pm

This book is well worth a read, ISBN 978-1-4456-0866-2 :GBR: :GBR: :GBR:
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Postby Niner » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:23 pm

Say what? Come again? Name one...besides Marmite.

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Postby Niner Delta » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:18 pm

I bet this is how McDonalds got their start selling "substitute" food........ :mrgreen:

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Postby Niner » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:19 pm

American soldiers over seas can buy some insurance...... good idea that continues down to today. Wonder what the max amount is today? It hadn't changed from WWI down through Vietnam.

The total amount in the papers looks like a lot of "Sammies" weren't buying in yet.

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Postby Niner » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:57 am

There are unions and then there are unions.

The I.W.W is the union based on all workers of any status being the same in a struggle with industry. The "good" unions of the AFL are craft unions and exclude or include depending on skills and connections....with a bag of unstated prohibitions. No unskilled labor, Negroes,Orientals, Mexicans, or people who don't speak English need apply.The AFL supported the war and is willing to work with the Wilson administration. The I.W.W. is against the war and have a mixed bag of socialist and Marxist adherents who are only interested in getting as much control of industry wages as possible. The regular established craft unions and the US government don't like Wobblies ....to put it mildly. The Bill of Rights was interpreted loosely at best when it came to the I.W.W.

From the same front page.

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Postby Niner » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:55 pm

Nothing like a little flame thrower drill for toasting some Germans. Of course,the Germans thought of the idea first, but monkey see means monkey do. Being on the receiving end was nothing anybody wanted to think about. The guy dishing the flames carried extra personal risk of the tank of fuel on his back being a prime target along with himself. And if he wasn't shot or killed in an explosion of flame surrendering wasn't an option if the attack failed.



During the war the Germans launched in excess of 650 flamethrower attacks; no numbers exist for British or French attacks.


They were undeniably useful when used at short-range, but were of limited wider effectiveness, especially once the British and French had overcome their initial alarm at their use. The operators of Flammenwerfer equipment also lived a most dangerous existence.

Quite aside from the worries of handling the device - it was entirely feasible that the cylinder carrying the fuel might unexpectedly explode - they were marked men; the British and French poured rifle-fire into the area of attack where Flammenwerfers were used, and their operators could expect no mercy should they be taken prisoner. Their life expectancy was therefore short.


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Postby Niner » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:02 am

An editorial cartoon with a Christian woman in a tower and a Turk keeping her hostage. The simple version of what was happening as the British were about to push the Turks back and gain control of Palestine. The Balfour Declaration already published in the Press ten days before would become policy....with all sorts of results down to today.

The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government during World War I announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a minority Jewish population. It read:

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
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Postby Niner » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:22 pm

It was hell being a Calvary officer in the US during WWI.

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Postby Niner Delta » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:28 pm

It was a shock to Schock....... :cool:

So it seems artillery was considered "mounted service", must have still been horse-drawn artillery??

I wonder if there were complaints from his bride when he wore spurs to bed?? (I can think of a couple jokes here.. :shock: )


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Postby Niner » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:45 pm

A hundred years ago today it was Thursday November 29, 1917.... and the third Thursday of the month: Thanksgiving.

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Postby Niner » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:08 pm

This war is starting to cost real money in 1917....and not exactly Trump change in 2017.

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Postby Niner » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:21 pm

In Halifax Nova Scotia there was a big accident. One ship runs into a loaded munitions ship and thousands die from the resulting explosion.

A century afterward it is remembered.
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Postby Niner » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:58 pm

In the news today...2017.... Trump is in trouble because he is moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem and Muslims don't like it because it looks like, correctly, that the US isn't neutral in the present religious war and property right dispute. Israel is divided between Jews and "Palestinians" now days from a political point of view, as we all hear regularly. In WWI Britain took Jerusalem from the Turks a hundred years ago today and it was announced in US newspapers. The news then didn't mention any Jews or Palestinians as having any say in who is running things. Just Turks as being dispossessed by the British. Guess we couldn't give it back to the Turks and let them worry about it now days....... since they had it for 673 years previous to WWI they should have some claim. Could we?

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Postby Niner » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:01 am

Arms chief is grilled by Congress on the machine gun problem. Borrowing them from Mexico and France is embarrassing.

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Postby Niner » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:49 pm

The guy in the above post that was putting the blame on the Secretary of War could have filled the machine gun need with the Lewis gun. The inventor, an American, was turned down by the general being grilled by the Congressional Committee well before the US entered the war and he had moved to Belgium before the war and then to England where thousands of his design were made and being made in 1917. It was also being made by Savage arms in the US and supplied to Canadian and other troops at that time. The Browning design didn't get to the war until September of 1918 and saw little action. And....according to one report, US Marines arriving in France with Lewis guns had them taken away and were supplied with the sadly unreliable French Chauchat .

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Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:11 pm

Says it all really Robert.........The American military were woefully unprepared for war on the scale of the Great War even though they had been 'supporting' the Allies. Unfortunately the actual moves made toward full involvement seem, from your paper posts, to have been made by poorly informed politicians.........
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Postby Niner » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:03 am

The purification process begins. The noble do not drink.God would not approve when we are about killing Germans in his name. The 18th amendment gets it's start only prolonged by states ratification until the end of 1919.

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Postby Niner » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:45 pm

"T'is the season to be jolly". Well, not if it involves booze and you are an officer drinking with enlisted men.

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Postby Niner » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:21 pm

Inflation is real in the US. Not as real as the newspaper makes it...but real enough.

U.S. Inflation Rate, 1914-1917 ($100)
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the dollar experienced an average inflation rate of 8.58% per year. Prices in 1917 are 28.0% higher than prices in 1914.

In other words, $100 in the year 1914 is equivalent to $128.00 in 1917, a difference of $28.00 over 3 years.

The inflation rate in 1917 was 17.43%.


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Postby Niner » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:21 pm

If those German troops would only learn from what the Russian troops could tell them after Russia heads for the war exit.

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Postby Niner Delta » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:29 pm

After reading what the Russians were saying, not very many of them came true........ :mrgreen:
Their utopia never quite happened.


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Postby Niner » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:14 am

There has been a story like this in newspapers for every Christmas in every war the US has ever been in down to today. Turkey... a great traditional festive staple is being served to the boys over seas as though it were a treat entered into at great expense to show how appreciative Uncle Sam is of his soldier boys.

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Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:13 pm

Says it all.................
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Postby Niner Delta » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:10 pm

I wonder why the cartoonists don't play up the Kaiser's gimpy arm??

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Postby Niner » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:39 am

If it were a plot in a movie nobody would believe it. But...whatever... the G men are on the case. They are prepared to believe anything.

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Back in the US the trains were divided upon color lines.... and no "darkies" in first class, even if they were officers.
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