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Lebel

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:28 pm
by englishman_ca
I traded some stuff years ago with a guy who found his grandfather's bring backs in the attic. Amongst the buttons and badges were some cartridges. This is one of them.

Not particularly rare or valuable, but it is a genuine souvenir and I can imagine. I think that it is neat.

8mm French Lebel? 1908 dated?

Re: Lebel

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:33 pm
by Niner
Looks like the primer has an off center ding in it like something struck it.....as well as another less deep. Maybe the bullet end of another round?

Re: Lebel

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:41 pm
by englishman_ca
Ya, I always thought it a bit dodgy putting spire point center fire bullets nose to tail in a tube magazine.

The old .35 Remington Game Master pump action is a common hunting rifle for deer around here, they used centerfire cartridges, but their tube mag had a spiral twist fluted so bullet did not rest on the primer of the cartridge in front of it.

Re: Lebel

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:24 pm
by PeterN2
The later 8mm Lebel cartridges had a groove in the case head around the primer to take the point of the bullet when used in the tubular magazine of the Lebel rifle. The clip fed Berthier rifles were OK with the case head as shown.
Regards
Peter.

Re: Lebel

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:36 am
by DuncaninFrance
Bit more info for you.

ART is artillery or parc d’artillerie and D Desaleux name of the inventor.

I have a post running on the IAA forum at the moment about it and will let you know the results. :FRA:

Re: Lebel

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:38 am
by DuncaninFrance
Find more here;
http://www.municion.org/ and search for;

8 x 50 R / 8mm. Lebel / 8.03x51 R / 8x50.5 R / 8.03 x50R / 8mm Lebel Modelo 1886 / DWM 472 / DWM 472A / 80x50R Mod. 86-88-93-1932 / SAA 4105 / ECRA-ECDV 08 050 BBC 060
INTRODUCCIÓN Y TIPOS DE BALA


Introduction and types of bullet
Markings O-K
Markings L-Z

And also here; http://www.armeetpassion.com/8%20lebel%202.html :FRA: