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THIS IS CATCHING!

Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:44 pm

Been to Bordeaux this afternoon looking for a second hand O/U shotgun and came back with a new Marocchi Trapper 12g O/U for 289€ / £216 / $426.

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Postby dhtaxi » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:41 pm

Very nice.
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Postby Niner » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:43 pm

Over and under. Very nice looking shotgun is right.
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Postby ian27 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:45 am

Well done Duncan, nice shotgun!!!! How did you get that past the wife??
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Postby Karl/Pa. » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:40 am

Nice catch Duncan.
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Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:50 pm

How did you get that past the wife??


I have been a GOOD boy ALL year - well so far anyway :razz: :razz:
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Nice gun

Postby PeterN2 » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:05 pm

Looks good. What is the barrel length?

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Postby dromia » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:13 pm

Nice gun Duncan, isn't there something wrong with the barrels though, they seem to be turned 90 degrees to the stock. :shock:

I'd get that sorted mate. ;)
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Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:32 pm

What is the barrel length?


61.5cm / 24.2" Peter

Isn't there something wrong with the barrels though, they seem to be turned 90 degrees to the stock.


No, it's the stock that is turned 90º to the barrels Adam :shock: so it should be OK.

I was hoping to shoot some patterns plates tomorrow afternoon with BP cartridges but the weather is siling it down at the moment so I might have to wait till Wednesday / Thursday
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Postby blackisler » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:51 pm

very nice Duncan , Ignore the old fashioned idea that Adam has about the orientation of the barrels . With the over under configuration you dont get the muzzle flip that you get from the antiquated side by sides.

Perhaps Adam would like to add a comment about the merits of the coal burner he likes to use
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Postby dromia » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:37 pm

Coal burners are psychologically sophisticated shotguns I'll have you know.

You never see your misses so the humiliation is less.

Now just so that there is no confusion in future, this what a proper shotgun looks like :cool:

Note the barrels properly aligned with the stock:



Proper man sized bore 10 gauge:



Two hammers and two triggers, one of each for the left barrel and one each for the right:



Tasteful and unobtrusive hand engraving:



Elegant fore-end:



Refined non ejecting extractors:



Intricate Damascus barrels:



Locally made in Co Durham:



Price a year ago, a smidgen more than Duncan's gun.
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Postby DuncaninFrance » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:45 am

Perhaps Adam would like to add a comment about the merits of the coal burner he likes to use


Adam, that is one very nice piece of history you have there, I thank you for the pictures. Wild haggis ( Haggie?) would not have stopped you posting them after blackisler fed you the chance I suspect. :roll: :roll:

I can't hit a country with a S/S let alone a clay and I have to say that I much prefer a plain rather than engraved piece.

Have a look here, http://www.larquebusier.com He buys actions from Italy and makes beautiful guns with them.

I may have said this before but my favorite shotgun was an original (not Webley) WW Greener GP that I stupidly sold in the UK some years ago.
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Greener GP

Postby PeterN2 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:38 pm

A friend has a Greener GP MkII that he bought new about thirty years ago and has hardly ever shot. I had a look at it a couple of months ago and it looked brand new, not a mark on it.

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Postby blackisler » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:00 am

I have to digress to Adams superb defence of the magnificant side by side 10 bore , A true man size shotgun [obviously made for a scot] .

However it is slightly over kill when shooting pigeons or rabbits[ there would not be much left to eat ] also I would think it could be rather expensive to shoot clays with. I still prefer the over under configuration for shooting clays and pheasants with.

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Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:28 am

I loaded up 6 brass cases yesterday ( 3 with 7½ and 3 with 6 ) and shot a couple of 'pattern plates', 200mtr target board covered in wallpaper! At 30 mtrs I was getting a good pattern and after comparing it with a modern cartridge it was obvious that the brass loads would be fine for clays.

I am now waiting for Buffalo Arms to give me a price for 2 boxes shipped to France and we are in business :razz: :razz:
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Postby blackisler » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:25 pm

What is the comparable costs for your reloads to the factory ammo?

I have thought about reloading but find it is cheaper to buy my cartridges , well for the moment anyway
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Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:47 pm

However, the Brass Cases are loaded with Black Powder not Smokeless because there is a range in Bordeaux that has a Clay Bird setup but ONLY for BP.

It seemed a sensible idea to buy a gun that I could shoot both with because there is no Clay Club as such in this part of France. The only clay shoots are in the summer, run by the local Hunt Associations. They are called 'Ball Trap' and are normally only for one day.
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Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:31 pm

Last weekend I was able to go and shoot some DTL with this Marocchi and the triggers lasted for almost 20 rounds before the front one almost fell off!

On Wednesday I took it back to the dealer where I bought it and after 2 hours waiting for their gunsmith ( I use the term loosely ) to sort the problem I was told that it could not be repaired easily.

As they had 3 more versions of this shotgun on the shelves at the same price that I paid, all with loose triggers, I demanded a re-fund or a replacement with another gun.

After waiting for the boss for another 30 mins I agreed to exchange for this and some shells.



Built like a brick sh#*$ouse with 3 chokes and a selective ejector/non ejector. Stock is walnut (not French) but it mounts well and will serve me well for DTL.

I just wish I still had my Greener GP :roll:
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Postby joseyclosey » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:15 pm

I like the Baikal's, a brand new, single 12bore (Lebel :mrgreen: ) was about 30 quid in the early 70's, and gave me years of good service.

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Postby dromia » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:22 pm

I've got one of their O&Us.
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Postby DuncaninFrance » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:12 pm

Back in the UK, before we were deported, I had a Baikal O/U which I liked. I used Baikal cartridges and was told that every now and again there was a flash from the breech!! They were bloody noisy too :lol:
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Postby rice paddy daddy » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:54 am

ian27 wrote:Well done Duncan, nice shotgun!!!! How did you get that past the wife??

I haven't bought a gun in a while, but when I did I'd put it out in my tool shed for several weeks, then when I brought it in the house if the wife noticed and asked if I had bought ANOTHER GUN (gasp), I could say with all honesty "no, honey, I've had this one." :bigsmile:
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