Cops and killing perpetrators of crime

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Cops and killing perpetrators of crime

Post by Niner » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:32 pm

In the US quite frequently we hear of scrutiny of police actions with perpetrators of various kinds of crime. In many of those cases if the criminal dies because cops intentionally or unintentionally kill him there is an investigation with full press coverage as to if it was all done by the legal rules of engagement that cops apparently must follow. There is particular scrutiny if the victim is a minority. If the subject is not armed at the time with any kind of weapon the cop or cops are charged with a crime. That's in the US.

In England yesterday on the news there was the insane slasher story. He was shot. But how it played out has provoked no apparent editorial from the British news. Here is the Guardian:
Basu said that the attacker was attending the event, called Learning Together, before he stabbed a number of people. He then left the building and went onto London Bridge, where he was pursued and detained by members of the public, as well as a plain clothed officer from the British Transport Police. Armed officers from both the City and Met polices then shot the attacker.

He was wearing what “looked like a very convincing explosive device”. “Thankfully we now know that was a hoax device,” he said.
I saw a surveillance video of the capture. A group of civilians and one bus guard had the perpetrator on the pavement. One of them had possession of the weapon. Then the regular cops arrived and somebody noticed the fake suicide vest and the people that had the guy prisoner pinned to the ground got off of him and let the guy run a few steps only to be shot by one or more of the cops. Tackling an unarmed man didn't occur to them nor that shooting into what might have been a bomb vest might have been a bad idea. But.... surprisingly.... there is no comment in the news of bungling by the police.
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Re: Cops and killing perpetrators of crime

Post by joseyclosey » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:28 pm

And the latest news is one of the civvies who tackled him was a convicted murderer out on licence/parole... Fredrick Forsyth couldn't make this BS up.......
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Re: Cops and killing perpetrators of crime

Post by Niner Delta » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:25 pm

He had killed 2 people and was wearing what seemed to be a bomb device .... Did he actually get up and
run, the videos I saw never showed him getting up or actually being shot, it always ended with him on the ground, maybe
it was too graphic for the public. Even if they shot him while lying on the ground, good for them, I would
have shot him too. First priority is remove the threat.


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Re: Cops and killing perpetrators of crime

Post by Niner » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:48 pm

From the video it looks like the terrorist got up and started to run and got a step before going down from being shot. And....like Vern, I'm not against him being shot and killed for having a phony "bomb vest" that could be considered a weapon just looking at it. It's just a matter of how "criminal justice" plays out and how media and various special interests react to such a thing. In the long run, if they had captured him alive maybe they could have learned something about his motives and who he was associated with.

This brings to mind the IS leader that special forces might have captured alive rather than taking the corpse to dump in the ocean.
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Re: Cops and killing perpetrators of crime

Post by DuncaninFrance » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:47 am

I think that you are missing the most important point which is WHY, as a convicted terrorist, was he released after serving 50% of his sentence just as though he were a 'normal' criminal?

He was a follower of convicted hate preacher, Anjem Choudary. Khan joined the preacher’s al-Muhajiroun terror organisation in 2006. Within a decade, he was convicted - along with eight other terrorists known as the ‘nine lions’ - for their varying roles in plotting to form an al-Qaeda-inspired network to carry out attacks on the London Stock Exchange, the American Embassy and the home of Boris Johnson when he was Mayor of London.

These people should be locked up and the key thrown away. There is to be an urgent review of the way that terrorists are treated and hopefully it will crack down on them.

He was release under licence and was wearing an electronic tag but that would not be a deterrent to anyone set on continuing in the same vein as before.
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Post by Niner » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:36 am

Why, if they let him out on parole, didn't they just send him to whatever country he came from, or wanted to be from, and never let him on an airplane back again?

On the other hand, there was some talk in the news about countries repatriating captured combatants captured from IS in Syria. There was one woman, the child of naturalized citizens, from Alabama who went off to be a bride in the new Muslim crazy cult state who wanted to come back to Alabama. She showed remorse for doing something unwise but a judge said nothing doing. At least that seems to be sensible on the part of the judge.
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Re: Cops and killing perpetrators of crime

Post by DuncaninFrance » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:19 pm

Robert............the whole thing is a bag of bollocks and unfortunately driven by the do gooders of this world who have no perception of what actually happens in real life.

In the words of the Yorkshire Prophet , I would'rt piss on any of them if they were on fire............. :evil: :evil:
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