People in France to be able to register or give up undeclared weapons!

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People in France to be able to register or give up undeclared weapons!

Post by DuncaninFrance » Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:42 am

A new campaign aims to prevent these arms from being used in situations of domestic abuse or neighbour disputes, or from being stolen during a burglary
11 November 2022 12:56

People in France with undeclared weapons will be able to give them up or register them as part of a week-long amnesty organised by the government

By Emma Morgan
People in France who possess an undeclared weapon – which they have perhaps found or inherited – will be able to give them up or register them over a week-long period without facing penalties, the government has announced.

The interior ministry estimates that two million people illegally own between five and six million weapons. “These weapons are sleeping in a cellar, an attic, a wardrobe and sometimes until the bed,” said Jean-Simon Merandat of the Service central des armes et des explosifs (Scae) government body.

The service is launching an “unprecedented and historic” campaign designed to make it easier for people to hand in these illegal weapons and take them out of circulation.

The objective is to avoid them being used in situations of domestic abuse or neighbour disputes. Getting rid of undeclared weapons will also mean that they cannot be stolen during a burglary, which happens to 8,000 weapons each year.

Mr Merandat said that the arms then “reach criminal networks”.

Between November 25 and December 2, it will be possible either to declare illegally held weapons or to surrender them, as 300 collection sites are set up across France. These places will be open from 09:00 until 17:00, seven days a week.

Some 5,000 officers are mobilised in gendarmeries, police stations, stadiums and shooting clubs. The Fédération des chasseurs has also pledged to provide volunteers.

Getting rid of a weapon
If you have an undeclared weapon that you want to get rid of – whether a gun, knife, sword, ammunition or other equipment – you can go to one of these sites and hand it in.

However, it will not be possible to go to one of these collection points with a grenade, shell, explosives or an engin de guerre war weapon.

If you have one of these objects, your prefecture will have put in place a specific helpline number through which you can ask a mine-sweeping unit to come and collect it from your home.

This phone number will also help people with reduced mobility, those who do not have the means of transport to get to a collection point or who live in Paris and the surrounding area.

The weapons will then be destroyed, unless they have cultural or historical value.

Registering a weapon
Those who wish to keep their weapon can declare it without going to a collection point. Instead, they should “take photos, which will enable them to enter them into the interior ministry system,” Mr Merandat said.

They will also need their ID and proof of address, and will then be able to complete the process online.

Mr Merandat has said that there will be no consequences for those who choose to give away or register their weapons.

“We are targeting a population which is far from any form of delinquency: honest people acting in good faith. They will want to make their situation legal.”
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Post by Niner » Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:57 am

In the US various municipalities put on campaigns to get people to turn in firearms to law enforcement for destruction. The idea is to take them out of circulation and those who turn a weapon in get some stated fee for each one turned in. However, you can bet the fee of maybe $50 gets guns worth maybe $20 and often missing some parts that would make the weapon function properly.

What happens in France if someone showed up with a fully functional or modified AK47 ? They arrest him as a terrorist on the spot?
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Post by Niner Delta » Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:59 pm

Are French citizens allowed to have any guns that aren't registered? Obviously this doesn't apply to criminals. ... :mrgreen:


Those gun "buy back" programs became such a joke in the US that I haven't heard of one for quite a while.
What Robert mentioned is one of the reasons, another was that people with cash would offer those in line to
sell back their guns more money than the sell back price and walk away with the guns.
Those buy back programs were just an ineffective publicity stunt so the liberal could say, "We are taking those
dangerous guns off the streets." Sure, criminals will always turn in their guns for a few bucks ....... :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post by DuncaninFrance » Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:49 am

Niner Delta wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:59 pm Are French citizens allowed to have any guns that aren't registered? Obviously this doesn't apply to criminals. ... :mrgreen:


Those gun "buy back" programs became such a joke in the US that I haven't heard of one for quite a while.
What Robert mentioned is one of the reasons, another was that people with cash would offer those in line to
sell back their guns more money than the sell back price and walk away with the guns.
Those buy back programs were just an ineffective publicity stunt so the liberal could say, "We are taking those
dangerous guns off the streets." Sure, criminals will always turn in their guns for a few bucks ....... :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Technically if you own guns legally, ie., you have a shooting licence and you then decide not to renew it you can keep your current gun collection but you can't remove them from your house, shoot them, buy ammo for them of sell them :shock:
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Post by Niner » Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:28 am

So if you can't sell them as well as shoot them or remove them from your house, without the permit, do you really actually still own them in point of fact?
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Post by DuncaninFrance » Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:30 pm

Certainly, but with draconian restrictions...............
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Post by Aughnanure » Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:17 am

Some years ago , in conversation with some NSW Scientific Squad detectives the subject of Amnesties came up, the detectives were of the opinion that if every illegal pistol was magically removed from society, that in three years there’d be just as many in circulation.
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Post by DuncaninFrance » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:07 am

'PISSUP IN A BREWERY'!!

Last year the French Government declared that all gun owners in France would have to register their guns on line using a site called SIA. Système d'Information sur les Armes

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This came on line last March and was supposed to be working for all types of shooter.
To date they have only been able to deal with Hunters and people who have 'discovered' unlicensed guns! Opening it for Target Shooters and Collectors has been put back to May22, Sept 22, Jan 23 and now Sept 23!

:FRA: :FRA:
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Post by Niner » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:29 am

Why do they go through the motions of pretending they care what you see yourself as in your main gun interest? They don't seem to offer any different requirements or conditions of ownership under the law for collectors different from hunters or different from target shooters. To make a distinction without a difference is one of the basic logical fallacies. Obviously they really know this and are only sugar coating a turd of a law by pretending they do give a damn what your gun ownership motive is.
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