Artillery going the way of the eight track tape?

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Artillery going the way of the eight track tape?

Post by Niner » Thu Jan 22, 2026 11:13 am

Saw this story about how artillery is still part of war but missiles and drones are taking on more of the role that artillery traditionally played. The biggest problem with artillery today is counter fire. With the new wired in surveillance age upon us towed artillery has only about three minutes to move after commencing to fire. So the only way around this is self propelled artillery. The down side with self propelled is moving it around the battlefield and massing fire like a traditional battery all in one place.

Artillery in warfare half a century ago in Vietnam would have been useless if the whole battery were required to move every three minutes or take a direct hit with smart missiles until they were put out of action. Guns had to be surveyed in. Fire direction centers would have to be set up, complete with a table with a map to measure range and a FADAC computer the size of an oversize suitcase that needed a separate power source to run it. Artillery crews had to have their ammo at hand and laid out in a way they felt best. Before the first round went out there would need to be a manual check with slide stick like things and a fire direction officer would a have to pick the charge, all after the chart operator measured the range and deflection. The first round fired would have to be a marking round in the air in the vicinity of the target because the FO was only about sure of where he was...no GPS in those days. Then the actually explosive rounds would come next.
Scooting is a critical ability because the battlefield in Ukraine is under constant watch by drones, sensors, satellites, and, well, people with cell phones, which makes it hard to hide.

But while long-range precision rockets serve as a kind of scalpel, tube artillery does the knock-down, drag-out work of suppressing the enemy. Ukraine peaked at firing about 9,000 artillery shells a day early in the war, but that petered off to fewer than 1,800 a day in early 2024, according to the Royal United Services Institute. Russia, meanwhile, has fired between 7,000 and 16,000 shells a day, though it peaked at around 38,000 a day in June 2022.

Artillery shells are usually cheaper than rockets. They have a higher sustained rate of fire, and they work regardless of weather or enemy jamming, which can disrupt the guidance systems of precision missiles. Ukrainian soldiers and officials told Reuters last year that the 155mm shell in particular provides a crucial combination of explosive power and extended range.
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Re: Artillery going the way of the eight track tape?

Post by Niner Delta » Thu Jan 22, 2026 6:56 pm

I'm going to say that artillery is like the DVD, still around and used a lot, but slowly being replaced by
the USB thumb drive.
My latest laptop and desktop didn't come with a built-in DVD drive, had to buy a separate plug-in DVD drive. .. :roll:


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Re: Artillery going the way of the eight track tape?

Post by Niner » Thu Jan 22, 2026 11:42 pm

I learned that lesson myself. Got a add on DVD reader/burner for my laptop. Then I went to thumb drives for saving stuff on both my desk top and laptop. I have a lot of blank DVDs that I bought that I will probably never use. Wonder if Good Will wants them?
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Re: Artillery going the way of the eight track tape?

Post by Niner Delta » Fri Jan 23, 2026 10:52 pm

I'm right there with you. But even worse is my spindle of 50 new CD-Rs. They are right next to my box of
Covid masks, Covid test kits, and Samsung Tab E tablet. .. :roll:
When I die, my son is going to be so pissed when he starts going through all this crap that I have. .. :lol:


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