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Post by bradtx » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:51 am

Adam, It's always good to see 'youngsters' out shooting...seems fewer and fewer every year. Thanks for the pics and story.

My three have all shot, with my son pretty even with pistol, rifle and shotgun, my older daughter is a shotgunner and my younger daughter loves the pistols. Only my older daughter's fiancee has any real interest in Dad's old Enfields. :roll:

Eoin, Am I dense or are you saying that someone younger than twelve isn't allowed to shoot with his/her parents? And yes, when my son consistantly out shot me at traps it was a good day! We're still fairly even (I may be fooling myself :shock: ) with pistols, but he's going to have to step up a notch when he shoots his 7mm Weatherby against either my L42 or (T)less.

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12 years in Oz?

Post by belgmart » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:30 am

Here,

All firearms have a minimum age requirement of 16 - 18 for handguns. The press once raised an awful stink because a shooting club advertised in a newspaper promoting air pistol shooting for the youth, doing free introductory courses... And you think you cannot get any worse???
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Post by Aughnanure » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:15 pm

bradtx,

You ain't dense, mate. That's how things are .Tony's little mate who runs Oz is a Licenced fully paid up member of the "I Hate Guns Club". His body guards have them though.

belgmart,

Just went into your site. Very, very good. Have always loved single shot rifles. But to get back to the off-topic topic.

16 years, that's crazier than here 'though 16 was their aim.

I'll bet that in the Resistance there was no minimum age limit or licences.

Eoin.
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Post by Tom-May » Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:34 am

Bradtx,
"... It's always good to see 'youngsters' out shooting...seems fewer and fewer every year. ..."
It's likes of Princess Tony and the "Rubber Spoon Club", if they can't ban something outright, they impose rules and regulations, introduce "Safety Codes" (which are not any safer, but let politicos play CYA), then start whispering campaigns, the aim is to discourage the young from taking part and thus the practice (in this case shooting) will (they hope) die out from lack of support.

Did you know that a "Violent Crimes Reduction Bill", at present in committee in the British parliament seeks to make it illegal to sell, loan or acquire de-activated firearms and replicas, including blank firing starting pistols and realistic looking toys (you can keep what you have, but they can't be sold or even given away in the when you're done with them)? The bill also plans to ban the conversion of any of the above to look like other pieces (so chopping a blank firing Magnum* to resemble, say a turn of century Colt or S&W# would become illegal).

I'd better stop, this is not the place for this rant to start.

Adam,

It's good to see young people shooting, you've obviously passed on your enthusiasm.

Tom

* These are available legally (at present)

# Not available, but more useful for re-enactment (UK - Handguns banned)
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Post by bradtx » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:06 pm

Tom, Loosely following Adam's story of passing along family heritage and, in this case firearm skills, it is a shame that other parents can't...if I read the drift this topic went correctly.

The most elemental freedom is to teach our children even if the lesson involves a 'risky' skill. IMHO an age limit only creates an older, not wiser student. There are just some genes that need to be passed on. Although Ellen's accent may distinguish her, if my three and her were together and somebody asked if a certain firearm was unloaded they cry in unison "There ain't no such thing!".

Many years ago the parents of a boy killed on an ATV (three or four wheeled version of a motorcycle) he'd received the day before on Christmas lamented that there out to be a law requiring a minimum age to ride one. So a sympathetic law was passed. The parents were not chastized for their lack of judgement. If you asked my son "What does it take to start a motorcyle?", he'll tell you a helmet. A lesson he learned at six. (It's in the genes. ;) )

BTW, this is the shortest opinion I could write...fourth version. Sorry if it sounds unconnected.

Take Care, Brad
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