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Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:23 pm
by 1886lebel
What the %(*& are all those rifles ... YUCK !!!!
Real Frenchmen shoot French Rifles
Glad you had a good day
Guess I must be "FRENCH"

BBQ RAT ANYONE !!! ... Joe will EAT IT since he like Weasel on a stick
Patrick
Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:34 am
by DuncaninFrance
Ha! You notice that the only military kit there is my Nº4, a Nº5 and a Nº8
Still, the hospitality is French

Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:15 am
by Patrick Chadwick
Am I having hallucinations, or is the guy in the picture showing the 700 meter marker shooting an Enfield No. 8?
Of course not, it must be an Enforcer/distractor/rejector or whatever they call the things!
Just one of my daydreams - to see how far one can shoot with a No. 8 and still hit the black. Could be about 300 meters on a windless day.
I have a French trainer in 22 short. The sight is calibrated to 200 meters, and I tried it out once, in France (there are no 200 m ranges in Germany). Well, it hit the black. Grouping? What grouping?
The No. 8 is close to 1 MOA at 100 meters. The black at 200 should be no challenge, one might even get a group. But 300? That would be interesting.
Patrick
Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:05 pm
by DuncaninFrance
Patrick!
The Noº.8 Mk 1 was shooting at 300 mtrs and getting consistent blacks on a 200 mtr target! Next shoot is on April 4th and I will be taking the owner some info on his rifle from my copy of "British .22RF Training Rifles" Wish I had one to play with!!!
Re: No 8 at 300 meters
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:41 pm
by Patrick Chadwick
Ok, so I was wearing my calibrated eyballs after all. 300 meters for a 22 must be ballistically equivalent to about 800 with a BPCR, if you scale everything, so hitting the 200 meter target at 300 is pretty good. What ammo was used? And was the rifle fitted with a backsight as used on a No. 4? (There's no range markings to help you set the sight at that distance on the normal No. 8 backsight.)
Now that I now it can be done, I would like to try it myself. But there are no 200 meters ranges in Germany - it seems to be common only in France - so I will have to go "cold" from 100 to 300 meters. I would very much like to know what elevation was required on the backsight.
Patrick
Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:41 pm
by DuncaninFrance
Can't give you any more info Patrick as I don't have it to hand. I will try and check it out next month if the guy is there.
In the mean time here is a close up pic of the sights which appear to be the No.4 Mk 1 which was modified to 25, 50 & 100 yard settings.
Best I can do at the moment mate!
Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:30 pm
by Brass Rat
I guess we are fortunate to belong to a club where we can shoot out to 600 yards pretty much any day that there isn't an organized shoot being held.
Our GMRS radios get a workout when we shoot at 600. It's a bit of a pain, one in the pits and the other shooting. It's better if you have 4, 2 shooting, and 2 pulling targets. You couldn't see 30 cal holes at 600 yards with the Hubble telescope. I have enough trouble seeing .223 holes at 200 yards, especially in the black with a dirt berm behind.
Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:02 pm
by joseyclosey
Duncan, if your pal does not have a copy of the War Office user handbook for the No.8, a copy in PDF format can be found here....
http://www.gunmanuals.ch/source01a/Enfi ... _MK.1_.pdf
Joe
Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:35 pm
by Woftam
Thanks Joe, I had it previously but lost it and been looking ofr it for a while. Nothing being easy I initially got an access forbidden message and had to backtrack to the main site and navigate the german language menus

Re: NEW RANG TO SHOOT AT - SOUGE.
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:14 pm
by DuncaninFrance
Thanks Joe. Got the same problem as Graeme

Good job German is easy to guess
