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				Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:20 am
				by dhtaxi
				Are these  caliber a reloading only option or can you get factory ammo.
Can you get cases etc without any hassle.
			 
			
					
				Can do it both ways DH.
				Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:22 pm
				by DuncaninFrance
				Reloading dies are about 125€ for 30-284W. 20 commercial rounds are about 32€ I think. I intend to re-load in the long term. Will post details when I eventually get there.
			 
			
					
				It gets better.
				Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:07 am
				by DuncaninFrance
				Had a long chat with my mate Alain at the range today. There is a company here in France called ESP 
http://www.espfrance.com/ who sell Redding re-loading gear which Alain swears by. They are on holiday at the moment but I am going to e.mail them for some prices later in the month. 
Alain has all the kit for re-loading so all I will need to start with will be dies, brass and bullets. He has changed his powder to Vihtavuori so I am going to 'look after' his Tubal of which he has a fair amount in stock!
Things are looking better and better.
 
			
					
				20th May!
				Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:16 pm
				by DuncaninFrance
				Had a call from Frankonia today confirming receipt of my order and deposit cheque. Delivery is expected on or about May 20th.
Also discussed loads with the guy and he suggested Sierra 150/180 grain HPBT Match King bullets  with either Vihtavuori N150 or Tubal 3000 or 5000 powder.
I have also e.mailed a company called ESP in Isère for Redding re-loading die prices and their suggestions for bullets/powder.
Great adventure this is turning out to be  
 
  
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:06 am
				by awo425
				Forget about any .308" Bullets in russian Mosins, especialy BT.
Go get some Lapua D166(45grn N140) oder S&B .311" Spitzer 150grn(48grn N140) or some Sierra Prohunter .311" 180grn (45grn N140).
For dies, RCBS will do, but a special made Lee Collet is even better.
Chris
			 
			
					
				Thanks Chris
				Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:38 am
				by DuncaninFrance
				Database is building   

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:56 am
				by awo425
				Got some Barnaul ammo for testing here, tomorrow I will take my M39 and my chrony 

 
			
					
				Exact data!!
				Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:56 am
				by DuncaninFrance
				My pal Alain just called and said he had found some Lee info for me so am collecting it tomorrow at the range.
UNFORTUNATELY I have to take my wife and mother to a garden plant sale in the morning then to some friends for lunch so this weekend is shooting free  
 
 
Alain also said he was going to phone Frankonia and get them to let us have an 
exact barrel measurement so he can work on a bespoke load!!
I think he is having more fun than I am with this project   
 
  
Will be interested in your results Chris, have a great day.
 
			
					
				D-166
				Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:12 am
				by RGRWJB
				My friends have loaded for me the D-47 and the D-166 and they are great shooting projectiles.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:02 pm
				by awo425
				The Barnaul is crap, lousy grouping, over 10cm at 100m out of my B-barrel M39.
Seems nothing can top the D-cartridge 
