Milsurp After Hours

No I actually need them in my work as estate rifles, I couldnt expect a stalking client to drag a Ross around looking for Muntjac. I have decided that this Years wappenshaw will be the last time I darken a firing point at Bisley. I will do the HBSA summer shoot for the 35th anniversary but thats it this year. The NRA wont ever see a penny from me ever again!

I decided that to have more sporters and not to become an RFD it was easier to shift the lot and do one for ones. I have asked for another 6.5 swede, a 22.250, another .223, a 7x57, and a .308. I will be making a 7.5 french sporter in a year or two when I can find a donor rifle to take to bits. I have figured that it would even be a sporter in france as I will neck out 6.5 brass and not trim, hence the reound will be 7.5 x 55 not 54 and therefore not a military case. I have done this already and they chamber without problem, I will overstamp the barrel, 7.5 sporter.

I may even come over and shoot it to irritate the French!

I may even come over and shoot it to irritate the French!

Anytime you are passing...........

Let me build it first then I'll come over!

Oh and I also have plans to neck out the 5.56 to a 6.5 bullet.

Yes I know its been done but so what I can make mine slightly different!

Right! Just give me 24 hours notice and a 200mtr range will be yours.

As an American, I find this thread most interesting. I am learning from it and it allows me to compare, and any time you learn anything, it is a good thing. I am sort of reminded by this thread of the old saying "follow the money" as a key factor. X cost today may result in X plus tommrow and being upped accordingly.

1Shirt!

Precisely whilst they can get away with charging like a wounded elephant at Bisley this is a tax upon all clubs even if they dont use the NRA's facilities. The reason its a tax and not a reasonable charge for a service is that the NRA are claiming that the insurers are demanding that a level of protection from risk is put in place. Now the NRA have written to club secretaries stating that despite the fact that they (club secs) are signing off for someone that the NRA may never see, that in no way are the NRA nor the club secs liable should anything go wrong.

Now this could only have been thought up by a financier as liability always lies with someone!

If there is no change to existing policies and club procedures then why is a charge being levied to issue a certificate of competence which the NRA assures us wont be binding upon those signing off the cert nor the NRA?

Its another fiddle!

About 3 or 4 years ago they responded to the Home Office open consultation on firearms laws not with an appeal for the return of pistol and self loading rifle shooting in this country but with a plan that all firearms certificate applicants must be trained by them and no one else.

license to extort money!

I wont have anything to do with them any more and as such this decembers Wappenshaw will be the last time I enter Bisley Camp!

1Shirt...... you'll learn quite a bit by keeping tabs on this thread. But the main thing is how America.. if the new spate of anti-gun laws carry.. will end up putting America like Europe = DEFENCELESS! The British Gun Laws have always been anti-gun, so getting an FAC is a minefield, and for the most part, if one is not a member of, or an applicant to join a bonafide Gun Club..... you've no chance of getting past the initial interview for FAC application.

In recent years, in fact.. only last year, (in line with their basic moronic dislike and false stereotype of honest gun owners) the Police and Home Office were stating that a great number of Deactivated (called De-Milled in the US) weapons pay a great roll in the countries gun crime! I never read such crap before as when I read that Police report. The Police in the UK basically are spineless, and massage the crime figures like nothing else. Anyway, I digress.

When I was a serving RM, I had quite a collection of WW1 service rifles, so was looking to keep them on my FAC. A month before I was due to leave the RM's, I received a letter from the county police chief where I was living at the time. It basically gave me till the end of my term in the RM's to dispose of my firearms collection before my release... or face imprisonment! I was a member of a civillian gun-club at the time. With the letter was a certificate that I was obliged to have the gun dealer sign when I had sold the weapons. All this basically meant was that I had no choise in the metter, and the rifles were vertually given away. Once the dealer saw ther police certificate... he saw pound signs in front of his eyes for he knew I was stuck in barrel as to the reason for my disposing of the weapons, and vertually had to accept his offer.

Unfortunatelly, those morons in Sacramento, CA, haven't actually thought about the wacky rules and regulations that they are desparatelly trying to pass. In fact, if anything were to happen to either themselves or anyone close to them as a result of their laws, they will be the first ones to cry wolf.. and then blame everyone but themselves! The NRA in the USA (i'm a fully paid up member) is doing a superb job, and long may it continue to the detriment of the wacko anti-gun lobby. Just as in the UK, the anti-gun lobby are targetting the honest law abiding, and not getting down to the route of the problem...... the criminal.