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HBSA 1910 Open 200 Yards Meeting, Bisley

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:01 am
by Brian the Brit
I've just got back from a very enjoyable (but embarrassing) morning's shooting and thought you might like to see just a few pictures to get a feel of the action. (I'm not trying to compete with Adam).





This competition was organised by the Historic Breechloading Smallarms Association and took place on Century Range at Bisley. There were various matches being shot at the same time and all sorts of interesting and exotic rifles were on display, many of which I didn't recognise. There were dozens of Enfields of all types and quite a few Martini-Henrys and Martini cadets.





I entered the "Territorial" competition (Classic Service Rifles pre 1919)twice using my Long Lee and my P14. The course of fire was: <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Prone</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->: Deliberate fire; 2 sighters (convertible)+ 10. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Snaps</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->: Prone; 2 sighters (non convertible) + 10 exposures of 3 seconds. (Charger loading not allowed). <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Double Snaps</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->: Prone; 2 sighters (non convertible) + 5 exposures of 5 seconds, 2 shots per exposure; starting loaded with not more than 6 rounds, chargers not allowed.





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This is a general view of the range. It was a very well organised shoot with a friendly atmosphere. I tapped up quite a few people for advice on loading Martini Henry cartridges.





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Here's our hero Strangely Brown (mercifully a rear view) as Range Controlling Officer for the snaps. Poor old Mick has been very unwell lately and was coughing and spluttering and had almost lost his voice. Clearly this man is officer material. I just love it when he's forceful.





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Here's Mick getting ready to shoot. As you can see he is praying for a miracle - not surprisingly as the prat had left his shooting glasses at home! (Be honest, we've all done something similar!)





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In this one Mick's shooting snaps with his beautiful No 1 Mk 1*. I found the double snaps VERY challenging and really disgraced myself. I should have put up a sign, "Don't boo the juggler. He's doing his best."!





All in all it was a great day out thanks to people like Mick who so freely give up their time to organise and run things for the rest of us.





How did I do? Need you ask? I was absolutely bloody useless but I enjoyed myself proving it and that's all that matters, eh?





Brian

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Re: HBSA 1910 Open 200 Yards Meeting, Bisley

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:24 pm
by krinko
Brian,


Looks like fun, but I am glad you identified Mick---I was expecting that Tweed/Carpet-Remnant shooting jacket he usually wears.


Keep up the good work.


-----krinko

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Re: HBSA 1910 Open 200 Yards Meeting, Bisley

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:53 pm
by Strangely Brown
Quote-----krinko:


<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"I was expecting that Tweed/Carpet-Remnant shooting jacket he usually wears".</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->





Oh dear God I'v been type cast!





It was a good day although I didn't shoot three of my cards but <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>retired</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> after lunch with a chest infection that I thought was under control, but after shouting at Brian all morning it got the better of me.





Quite a few Schmidt-Rubin's and as always I noticed that a lot of the higher scores were coming from Swedish Mauser's (Carl Gustav 6.5mm M 1896's).................but we wont dwell on that in this forum!


Still a lot of Enfield's on the range and quite a high proportion of scoped Mosin Nagant's that did very well certainly on the snap and rapid targets.


A little surprised not to see any Snider's this year but there were a couple of Martini Henry's in original 577-450 and I noticed somebody shooting a Bonehill .22 conversion.


Nice pictures Brian, can I order a copy for my Mum please?

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Great photo post. But....

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:52 pm
by Niner
" The course of fire was: Prone: Deliberate fire; 2 sighters (convertible)+ 10. Snaps: Prone; 2 sighters (non convertible) + 10 exposures of 3 seconds. (Charger loading not allowed). Double Snaps: Prone; 2 sighters (non convertible) + 5 exposures of 5 seconds, 2 shots per exposure; starting loaded with not more than 6 rounds, chargers not allowed."





Pardon my ignorance but would you explain:





convertible and non-convertable?





Snaps and double Snaps?





Exposures of 5 seconds?




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Re: Great photo post. But....

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:05 pm
by bradtx
Brian, Thanks for the photo essay. Looked to be a great time. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">;





Take Care, Brad

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Re: Great photo post. But....

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:04 pm
by Strangely Brown
Robert a convertible sighter is your first and second (three at long range) sighting shots that if you think you are "on target" you may add then as your first <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>scoring</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> shots.


You can only convert your last or both sighting shots and not just the first under NRA rules.





A non convertible sighter is one that you can not add to your final score, usually shot before a service rifle event for a rapid or snap shoot.





A snap shoot is where the target is only shown for 3 or 5 seconds.


Single snaps for the 1910 meeting was a three second exposure of a turning target, one shot each exposure and for double snaps we had a whole 5 seconds to get two shots off.

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Re: Great photo post. But....

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:37 pm
by PeterN2
I like shooting the double snaps. I never do much good, but it is good fun. Myself and three friends do the ROing on the snaps at the Trafalgar Meeting and so get to see alot of different shooters attempt the course of fire. Some shooters fire the second shot at double snaps after about 5 1/4 seconds so what would otherwise be a good shot slips by the target as it is turning away. They just hang on the aim a fraction too long for the second shot. Some rush too much and both shots go astray. There is time to get two aimed shots off in five seconds, but you cannot dwell on aim. There is no time for fine adjustment of aim, it is a case of quick sighting and get the shot off. I shall be having another go in October at getting a good score, how successful, only time will tell.


Regards


Peter.

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Re: Great photo post. But....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:07 am
by stripperclip
sounds like a fun course of fire and nice pic.'s Brian when I was in the army we had targets that would pop up for a few seconds made shooting more interesting.

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Re: Great photo post. But....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:15 am
by Niner
Mick, thanks for explaining it to me. Funny, I bet I was the only one that didn't have a clue. ;)

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Pity I couldn't make it...

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:05 am
by martinibelgian
<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START : --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":">; Would have loved to be there, but other things interfering... Otherwise, would have brought the M-H along for some smoke. Will try and make the September meet though, and definitely will be there at the Imperial!

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