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With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:52 am
by Niner
Now , with all the civil unrest, Confederate statues are coming down all over. One in Mobile of Admiral Semmes that had been standing for well over a hundred years was removed even before anybody demanded it. However, there is a new notion in the breeze. Those old civil war generals for whom US Army bases are named are next. No more Ft. Benning, former home of the infantry, No more Ft. Bragg, named after a Civil War general that was really pretty incompetent, Ft. Lee, etc. It offends Afro Americans of the present generation. This seems to denigrate all of the black soldiers who trained at those military bases for every war entered into by the US coming down through the 20th Century to today. However, I can see how it might rankle the new generation of woke people.
I'd suggest that if the Army removes those old Civil War general names they should be replaced by well linked Presidents who sent US soldiers to undeclared wars in the last fifty or sixty years. Johnson, Nixon, Bush and Bush Junior with a W, on down to Obama and Trump. It would be more reflective of actual US history and should give new generations of sensitive and enlightened youth the satisfaction of truth in labeling.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics ... oXX8efRVPY
Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:23 pm
by DuncaninFrance
It seems to me that these snowflakes are forgetting that history cannot be changed just because they don't like it. As to the 'Black Lives Matter' movement, they would do well to remember that the original source of the black slaves were Arabs and Africans who took slaves in internal conflicts and sold them to the Europeans.
Move on down the ages and consider that IF this had not happened the current generation of Black Americans would still be living in mud huts in Africa instead of looting stores in the US.
In the UK, people like Cecil Rhodes would not have bequeathed the money to set up colleges and universities where the modern day student population from around the world can study.
The whole thing makes me want to miss the news more and more!!!!
Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:40 pm
by Niner Delta
I think this explains a lot of what's going on.......
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Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 am
by DuncaninFrance
Very true Vern!
Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:05 am
by Niner
I'll second that statement. Very true. However, it often seems to me that the people that most want to hear their statements coming out of someone else's mouth are like that because down deep inside they are actually doubtful of the validity of whatever it is they are saying.
Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:28 pm
by Niner
Trump has come out in defense of all base names, Confed or not. It's not unexpected. Wonder how Biden feels about it? Probably since he needs every black vote in the US come the election he will be in favor of finding some new names to replace the old Confederates. I got a feeling Benning might be named George Floyd if Biden could name it now and he saw any percentage in it for himself.
I really...personally... can see both sides of it. Call it as they will, Benning will always be Benning to me. And...it's not because I have any love for the place. I don't.
Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:01 am
by DuncaninFrance
Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:28 am
by Aughnanure
Many towns and cities in the South had to build new public buildings after 1865 and they built them defiantly facing South.
I wonder when the "Rethinkers of History" will want them moved to face one of the other compass points?
Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:23 am
by DuncaninFrance
Re: With the latest civil unrest over race
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:55 am
by Niner
There are such "good ol boys". It's the "boogaloo bois". A bunch of right wing nuts looking to start the second Civil War. They aren't all anti black or geographically southern. Some are neo nazi and some are something else. But they all are armed to the teeth and like to walk around in public on just about any occasion of protest showing off their weapons. It's a lot like the old civilian militias that were playing Rambo back some years ago that used to surface on gun sites....only these wing nuts might actually do something. They are apparently a lot more organizationally real than the left wing anti fascist group that Trump trumpets as troublemakers called Antifa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boogaloo_ ... oogaloo%22.