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				nameless carbine
				Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:39 pm
				by awo425
				
			 
			
					
				Where ...............
				Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:53 pm
				by Dutch Mosin
				......on earth do you find these weapons Chris. 
 
 
I saw the pictures and immediatly looked up Karl-Heinz Wrobels book, because I thought I read a story on this weapon.
Nobody knows who manufactured this carbine or what units it was issued to.
The front sight looks very much like the one from the carbine M1907, so the weapon must be a pre 1917 
Russian development.
Pre 1917 because after this year the Russians used the metric system.
Great pictures and a great carbine Chris, thanks for sharing them.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin
BTW: Still going to Kassel on the 25th  
 
   
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				Question
				Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:54 pm
				by Niner
				Never seen furniture exactly like the barrel bands and particularly the first one with the elongated piece that looks like a tube.  What's that about?  Seems real unusual to me.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:48 am
				by awo425
				Yes Martin, I found it on this planet, exactly in germany 
 
 
It was a trade with another collector, who had it some years in his collection and now wanted it moved.
As to production, according to Mr. Wrobel it was produced in the Cavallry School of Sankt Petersburg for a longer time period, but nothing is realy set in stone so far.
Nobody knows, how many were made and where they were used.
Frankonia imported ca. 25 Carbines.
There was a special bayonnet for those Carbines used, constructed by Col. Gulkevitch, it was of folding construction and rested on the right side in the rings and the metall tube.
BTW, this gun can shoot good too, put 10 down the range at 50m today:
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				Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:23 pm
				by Dutch Mosin
				Congrats on the find Chris.
Not only a great looking carbine, but a great shooter too.
Sometimes you CAN have it all.  
 
 
Met vriendelijke groet,
Martin