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Finn SMG's
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:53 pm
by TaosBob101
Thanks again to Mosu.
#1 Soumi 9mm SMG in Bunker. Notice his pal w/ a "potato masher" grenade ready to go. Looks like German issue/Military aid. So maybe the Continuation War. You wonder if the Reds are on top of the roof already. These guys look ready to tangle
#2 Soumi and perhaps a KP44 (copy of PPS43).These Joes don't look as on edge as the bunker group.
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:22 am
by joseyclosey
The guys in the bunker shot appear to be wearing the German type of steel helmet too. Great pics
Joe
Pictures
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:00 pm
by mosu
Thanks for shearing these pictures TaosB.
The #1 has been taken during the great Sovjet summer offensive in summer 1944 in Karelian Isthmus. The farthest back man keeps a Maxim model MG in his hands. Notice the water pipe rolled around the gun. The two men have, as TaosB mentioned, perunanuija to say ’potato mashers’ in their hands. It appears to me that the grenade is hanging on the nearest man’s belt but it is not sure because it is partially behind the drum magazine. If it is hanging on and not pushed behind the belt, it should be Finnish varsikäsikranaatti m/32 (handle hand grenade model/32) which had a belt hook. Otherwise it may be German M24 which was known here as m/39 or Finnish m/41 which did not have this m/32’s belt hook because it had in some cases got caught in gear which resulted in disaster. I guess m/41.
In #2 the second from left is, and I bet TaosB knows it, is Lauri Törni aka Larry A. Thorne in 1944. The SMG is perhaps KP44. Lahti (co-designer to Lahti-Saloranta LMG) improved a little PPS43 in Jyväskylä, Tikkakoski factories and that became 9 mm KP44.
joseyclosey:
There were a variety of different kind of helmets in IIWW Finland: Swedish, Czech, German IWW, German and German model made in Hungary ones. This at least. German models beeing most common.
By the way did you know that Lahti was allowed to gulp down shots during working hours and he had a special permission for it given by Mannerheim.
We have a New Year since two hours :-)
mosu
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:39 pm
by dhtaxi
Happy new year Mosu all the best look forward to your posts in the new year.
Intresting stuff.
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:49 pm
by ThePitbullofLove
An article on Suomi SMG
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:29 am
by mosu
Nice pictures.
Here is an interesting article:
http://guns.connect.fi/gow/suomi1.html
mosu
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:19 am
by joseyclosey
Larry Thorne certainly had an interesting and varied military career! I just read this.....
http://www.pownetwork.org/bios/t/t375.htm
Joe
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:10 am
by Niner
That is an interesting story Joe. Glad you posted the link. Throne was really some kind of soldier judging from that link.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:38 pm
by Brass Rat
Mosu, I never knew about using the thumb for control before.
addition
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:42 pm
by mosu
Brass
After what I found It was an experience of war. You have nice cun there test it that way too.. I wishe I would have similar one.
Best Regards
Mosu