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Mosin Nagant 91/59

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:44 pm
by Dutch Mosin
I think I posted this one about 1½ years ago but I still think it's one of the most mystic Mosin Nagants there is so I thought I'd just post it again.

Besides that it's one of the most beautiful Mosin Nagants in my small but steadily growing collection.

I'm talking about my Mosin Nagant Model 91/59 build on a 1933 Izhevsk hex receiver.

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Of course all Mosin Nagants have their own story, but for this carbine no proof can be found on where they were “produced”.

Some say they were ”produced” in the USSR, others state that Bulgaria cut back the 91/30 rifles.

Fact is that these weapons are 91/30 rifles cut back to the specifications of a Mosin Nagant M38.

They are called model 91/59 because of the marking that can be found on the receiver.

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The easiest way to recognize an M91/59 is the rear sight which is the longer M91/30 type with all graduations above 10 milled off the leaf. The M91/59 was not issued with a bayonet and will not accept the M91/30 bayonet due to it's heavier front sight base.

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Most models 91/59 are build on a round receiver.

Fewer are build on the hex receiver.

It is possible the USSR cut back obsolete 91/30 rifles to sell or donate them to one of their satellite countries, for example Bulgaria.

The US importer (Century Arms) stated they bought these carbines in Bulgaria, so the “selling to a satellite country theory” could be true.

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However, I have never seen, heard nor read of any evidence that the USSR or Bulgaria cut back these rifles.

The fact that Century Arms bought these carbines in Bulgaria is no proof they were “produced” there.

Another possibility is that the USSR cut back the obsolete 91/30 rifles to support rebel organisations at the end of the 1950’s and this way weaken the strength of western countries.

An example for this support is the donation of weapons to Algerian rebels to support their fight against the French.

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Then again, nothing is certain with this carbine and for me it stays the most mystic Mosin Nagant there is.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:59 pm
by joseyclosey
Martin, that is a very handy looking little carbine and i would be proud to have it in my collection.

Is that one of the rifles you hold on the non shooting certificate?

Joe

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:13 pm
by Dutch Mosin
That's right Joe.

This carbine is on my collectors license so I'm not allowed to take it to the range.

Would I like to take this 91/59 to the range :?: :?: :?:

YOU BET I WOULD.

Got to stick to the rules though, so this one stays at home.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

Thanks for posting it Martin

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:21 am
by Niner
I have one of those too. Good to bring it up as a subject again. This rifle is one of those question marks as to when they were produced and in what kind of numbers as the cold war developed.

Century import as marked and as you say. How did you get it in Holland? Now that has to be a story in intself.

Maybe.....

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:21 am
by RGRWJB
...Century sold those to a distributor over there.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:23 pm
by awo425
Martin, come over, and we shoot EVERY gun of my collection, till our shoulders are black and blue :bigsmile:

BTW, verry nice rifle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

RGRWJB is right...

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:27 pm
by Dutch Mosin
Century Arms sold these to "Frankonia" in Germany.

That's where I bought my carbine.

But....that's not all of it's history of course.

My carbine started as a 1933 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 91/30.

For some reason the USSR or maybe even Bulgaria cut these rifles down to the specifications of a Mosin Nagant M38.

Century Arms say they bought these weapons in Bulgaria, but that doesn't mean they were cut down by this country.

Century Arms sold these carbines to a distributor called "Frankonia" in Germany.

That's where I found my 91/59.

I bought this carbine at the Frankonia store in Gotha, Germany and took it with me to the Netherlands.

This is where this 91/59 is gonna stay for a long, long time.

Oh and Chris.....you got yourself a deal my friend.

Shoot until our shoulders are black and blue....I like that. :D

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin