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2008 Coggansfield Guide, Martini & Lee Prices

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:19 am
by coggansfield
The 2008 Coggansfield Fourth Annual Digest of Late British Imperial Longarm Prices, 2006-2007

February 2008

© D.P. Munro 2008, Baltimore, Md., U.S.A.

Pp. 1-59 total.

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A. Rifles Covered by the Study.

I am very pleased to present the fourth annual Coggansfield digest of Martini and Lee prices. This edition covers sales over the period 2006-2007. We cover longarms (rifles and carbines) of the following types:

• Martini-Henry.

• Martini-Metford.

• Martini-Enfield.

• Lee-Metford.

• Lee-Enfield.

Where data are available, I include pricing on rare trials and experimental variants of the above. I also, for some models, distinguish prices among subvariations.

This is a long post, and so is done in four parts: this post and the three immediately following. This post describes the methodology, etc., while the following posts contain the actual pricing information.

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A.1 — Getting into this Price Digest.

All digests of this type must have parameters: otherwise there would be no limit to the quantity of data collected annually, and, correspondingly, I would never get around to publishing it. This being the case, the range of firearms covered mirrors my own collecting interest, which is to say, Martini-Henrys (and their derivatives) and long Lees and carbines. I also include short Lees in the price guide, though I do not collect them myself. Small calibre trainers are not included and nor are any handguns.

A Martini or Lee model must, for inclusion in this guide, meet the following criteria.

1. If a longarm is an approved British military model, it will be included (the exception is models where the numbers of sales are so great as to make tracking impossible). A purely commercial model, even if sold to British or colonial military authorities, cannot be included. However, a gun may be commercially made and be included, as long as it is true to a military pattern. Therefore, a “volunteer” Lee-Speed Lee-Metford mk. II, for example, can be included because the gun is an exact copy of a militarily approved firearm. A Swinburn carbine, even if it demonstrably bears, for example, Natal cavalry markings, cannot be included because the model was not militarily approved.

2. If the longarm is approved in the List of Changes (LoC), Indian List of Changes (ILoC) or the Australian List of Changes (ALoC), it will be included.

3. If the longarm was made in a government factory and issued to British military or paramilitary troops, it will be included, even if not officially approved in the LoC, ILoC or ALoC.

4. If the longarm is a pattern arm contained in the collection of the former RSAF Pattern Room, even if not subsequently approved or produced, it will be included. On the other hand, commercial or foreign models not of military pattern in the Pattern Room are not included.

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A.2 — What Is and What Is Not Rare.

It is often assumed that, just because relatively few of a certain model of gun were made, examples today must be rare. This is not true. The important factor is not how many were made but how many survive. I am sometimes asked how many of a given type of firearm I think are left on the planet. There is of course no possible way of answering. However, it is instructive to discuss the frequency with which certain models crop up for sale. This does not tell one how many are left, but it is a reasonable indicator as to how many are around at least compared to other models.

For example, if in any given year I run into, say 15 New Zealand pattern Lee-Enfield carbines for sale, and I run into just 1 SMLE mk. II** cond. every second year, this tells us that NZ carbines are far more common than SMLE mk. II** cond rifles. All things being equal, we should be able to say that there are approximately 30 NZ carbines around for every mk. II** cond. Of course, all things are not equal. The question is, are things equal enough for us to make informed judgements about the relative scarcity of models based solely on observations of frequency of sales? With a certain caveat, I believe the answer is yes.

The caveat is as follows. I live in the United States. Therefore, my observations of sales are naturally skewed toward sales in the U.S. and, to a lesser extent, Canada. Worldwide, there are annually thousands of antique-gun sales I never hear about. But I hear of proportionately more in the U.S. and Canada than I do of those in Australia and New Zealand, for example. This means that models comparatively common in North America are over-represented in my frequency analysis, while models common in, say, the Antipodes but scarce here are under-represented. To give a very concrete example, Canada in the late 1890s bought large quantities of MLE mk. I rifles, but never any mk. I* rifles. As such, the MLE mk. I is no doubt over-represented in my study, while the MLE mk. I* is doubtless under-represented. The MLE mk. I* crops up in dozens of sales annually in Australia and New Zealand, but not terribly many in North America. And if I never hear of these Australian and Kiwi sales, as is often the case, these guns do not show up on my spreadsheets.

Having said this, provided one accepts that my frequency analysis is nothing more than an approximation, I believe it to be a useful tool. Therefore, if I say that I ran into 30 MLE mk. I sales in a given year and 25 MLE mk. I* sales, this may not tell us much about the scarcity of these models relative to each other. However, to return to the example I started with, 15 New Zealand carbines a year versus 1 SMLE mk. II** cond. every second year — this obviously tells us something. It tells us that the mk. II** cond. must be scarce indeed because only 1,500 New Zealand carbines were made. And if there is — even in very, very approximate numbers — only 1 mk. II** cond. for every 30 or so NZ carbines, then there cannot be many of the mk. II** rifles left at all.

The table below presents the relative frequency, among models, of observed sales. Unlike the rest of this publication, the frequency analysis is not restricted to a two-year time span. The analysis is based on frequency of observed sales for as long as I have been collecting price data on firearms, which is to say, about four years.

Because some readers of this publication will be Martini fans and others Lee buffs, I have chosen a referent firearm from each camp. By referent arm, I mean that gun for which I say, “For every 1 XX carbine (referent firearm), I see 5 YY rifles (object firearm).” The referent arms I have selected are (a) the Martini-Henry artillery carbine mk. I and (b) the Lee-Enfield cavalry carbine mk. I. Each is scarce enough to interesting but common enough to be familiar, at least in name, to most readers. Over the last four years I have run into 16 of the former (MHAC) and 17 of the latter (LEC).

Below, all Martini models are compared against the MHAC referent and all Lee models are compared against the LEC referent. For readers interested in how a Lee compares to the Martini referent, or a Martini against the Lee referent, the answer is: just about exactly how it compares against it own referent. This is another reason I chose these referents: because they crop up with about the same frequency as each other.

In all cases below, all subtypes of object rifles are combined into the calculation, as are volunteer versions of the same model (other than where indicated). For example, if I say, “For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I see... 2.5 MHR mk. I,” this means that, for every mk. I artillery carbine, I see 2.5 of all MHR mk. Is combined (military and volunteer) and not 2.5 type 1s, 2.5 type 2s, etc. The exception to this rule is for subtypes that I price separately — usually because of rarity — in the main part of this analysis. Such separately priced subtypes also have separate frequency reports below. (The subtypes themselves are described in the main pricing section.) Finally, the frequency numbers for MHR mk. IIs and mk. IVs are greatly distorted by the fact that Atlanta Cutlery’s and International Military Antiques’ offerings are treated as one of each model, instead of several hundred of each model. Firearm abbreviations are explained in section E.3.

Martini Frequencies:

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 2.5 MHR mk. I.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 4.313 MHR mk. II.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 3.75 MHR mk. III, type 1.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.25 MHR mk. III, type 2.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 4.375 MHR mk. IV.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MHCC mk. I, 1st Pattern.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.625 MHCC mk. I, 2nd Pattern.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.0 MHAC mk. I.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.688 MHAC mk. II.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MHAC mk. III (pattern/sample arm only).

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 EMR mk. I, 1st Pattern.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 EMR mk. I, 2nd Pattern.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MMR mk. I.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MMR mk. I, modified, Western Australia Pattern.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MMR mk. II.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.25 MMR mk. II, Canada Pattern.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MMR mk. II, Natal Pattern.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MMR, South Australia Pattern (no mark number).

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MMCC mk. I.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MMCC mk. I*.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MMCC mk. II.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MMCC mk. II*.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.188 MMCC mk. III.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MMCC mk. III, Natal Pattern.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MMAC mk. I (pattern/sample arm only).

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.125 MMAC mk. II

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.625 MMAC mk. III.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.938 MER mk. I, types 1 and 3 combined.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MER mk. I, type 2.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MER mk. I Fitted to Take the Patt. 1887 Bayonet.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.188 MER mk. I Fitted to Take the Patt. 1888 Bayonet.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.188 MER mk. II.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MER mk. II Fitted to Take the Patt. 1888 Bayonet.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.75 MECC mk. I.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MECC mk. I (Natal pattern).

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MECC mk. I*.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.063 MECC mk. II.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.688 MEAC mk. I

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.75 MEAC mk. II.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.125 MEAC mk. II*.

• For every 1 MHAC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.75 MEAC mk. III.

Lee Frequencies:

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 MLM mk. I.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.12 MLM mk. I*.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 2.03 MLM mk. II.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.29 MLM mk. II* (mil. & vol.); 0.058 (mil. only).

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 4.12 MLE mk. I.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 2.353 MLE mk. I*.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 long LE .303 single-loader.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 MLE Lockyer Rifle (experimental sights).

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 CLLM mk. I* I.P. (pattern/sample arm only).

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.647 CLLM mk. II (mil. & vol.); 0.0 (mil. only).

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 CLLM mk. II I.P. (pattern/sample arm only).

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.353 CLLE mk. I.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 CLLE mk. I I.P.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.882 CLLE mk. I*.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 CLLE mk. II I.P.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 LMC Second Trials Pattern.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.706 LMC mk. I, type 1.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 LMC mk. I, type 2.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 LMC mk. I, type 3.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 LMC mk. I, type 4.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.0 LEC mk. I.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.353 LEC mk. I*.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 LEC India Pattern.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.765 LEC New Zealand Pattern (excluding trade pattern no. 3 carbine).

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 2.24 LEC RIC Pattern.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.529 SMLE mk. I.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.471 SMLE mk. I*.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 SMLE mk. I* I.P.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.589 SMLE mk. I**.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.441 SMLE mk. I** I.P.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.647 SMLE mk. I***.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.118 SMLE mk. II cond.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 SMLE mk. II* cond.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 SMLE mk. II** cond.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.00 SMLE mk. II*** cond.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 3.235 SMLE mk. III.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... SMLE mk. III* — not tracked.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.235 SMLE mk. IV cond.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 1.706 SMLE mk. V.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 SMLE mk. VI (rifle no. 1, mk. VI).

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... Rifle no. 4, all marks — not tracked.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... Rifle no. 5, both marks — not tracked.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.176 short LE .303 single-loader.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... Short LE .410 musket single-loader — not tracked.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 No. 1, Shortened & Lightened Trials Rifle.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.235 No. 6, mk. I Trials Rifle.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.0 No. 6, mk. I/I Trials Rifle.

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... 0.059 Pattern 1913 rifle (P-13).

• For every 1 LEC mk. I for sale, I encounter... Pattern 1914 rifle, both marks (P-14) — not tracked.

For readers’ convenience, in the price analysis sections that follow, I give the number made of each model discussed, so far as this is known. These production figures pertain solely to numbers made for British War Department-approved military orders. These figures do not include independent colonial military orders if not made through the War Department and they do not include commercial production of “volunteer” pattern arms.

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B. Methodology.

As in previous years, what I have done below is compare my own price research to the prices published in two respected guides (one in book form and one on line). I mean no disrespect to the publishers. Their research is perhaps more extensive than mine and I have found their guides very useful, despite reporting what seem to me to be prices on the low side.

If you print out this posting, or scroll down to read its contents, you will find a comparison of observed prices for dozens of Martini rifles and carbines and Enfield or Enfield-related rifles and carbines — nearly 100 models or submodels in total. (In truth, many people probably do not know that there even are that many Martini or Lee possibilities.)

The comparisons are between these:

• Ned Schwing (ed.), Standard Catalog of Military Firearms: The Collector’s Price and Reference Guide, 2nd ed. (Iola, Wis.: Krause Publications, 2003).

• Manowar’s Firearm Values, Internet site (http://www.fo.com/cr-buds/prices.asp).

• My own (“Coggansfield”) observations over the past two years, aggregated and averaged.

In my experience, dealer claims to the contrary, very few milsurps are in anything better than NRA “very good” condition. This being the case, for Schwing and Manowar, I have given their prices for “very good” rifles. Readers should bear in mind that their prices for “excellent” and “mint” items are higher, sometimes considerably so. (If you are unsure what I mean by all this, go to the web site, http://www.auctionarms.com/help/NRAGrade.cfm, for a description of the American National Rifle Association’s grading standards for antique firearms.)

As for my own price figures, I give the highest and lowest observed price for each type of rifle, regardless of condition, though in each case I describe its condition as best I can (thought mostly I have to trust sellers’ often exaggerated claims in this respect). I also give the average price of all the rifles of that type that I tracked. I do not track sporterised weapons which, as Manowar notes, should never be valued higher than a “fair” non-sporterised version of the same arm. I also give the percentage price change for each model between this year’s Coggansfield average and last year’s (though, for models with only a handful of sales a year, no inferences should be drawn from annual average price fluctuations).

This question of dealers’ descriptions is an important one. I base my descriptions on dealers’ descriptions, just as purchasers base their offering prices on those same descriptions. For the firearms below, I continue to use the dealer description, even if I subsequently find it to be inflated. For example, if a rifle is described as “excellent” and sells for $1,000, I record that as a grand for an excellent rifle, even if I later find out that the weapon was no better than “good.” This is because the $1,000 was offered for an “excellent” weapon (even if incorrectly described), and this reflects the market. If I were retroactively to downgrade the description to “good,” this would not reflect the market, as the buyer did not get to downgrade his price to, say, $500.

For each weapon, the reader should have seven figures to compare: Schwing’s average figure, Manowar’s average figure, my current average figure, my current high figure, my current low figure, my previous average figure and, finally, the percentage difference between this year’s average price and last year’s. Between the seven of them, these figures should give the reader a reasonably good picture of the current state of the market for any given arm.

Having said this, “the market” is just that: people buying and selling. There is no right or wrong, just how high people are prepared to pay or how low they are prepared to sell. This may offend some readers’ preconceived notions of what is “fair.” This digest passes no judgement on whether or not certain sales are “fair” or not; I just report the prices as I find them. However, particularly in cases of very uncommon weapons, one anomalously high or low sale can distort the picture. In instances such as these, I have pointed out, not that the resulting average is “right” or “wrong,” but that it may have been skewed.

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C. Time Span.

I average my data over two-year increments of time, in this case, the years 2006 and 2007. In other words, if below you see that a certain type of arm had a Coggansfield average sales price of $600, that means that this was the average sale (or dealer asking) price for this model over period 2006-2007.

The reason is this: many of the weapons listed below are very scarce, with only a handful of sales a year. If a given type of arm has three sales a year, and one of these sales is very expensive, this will greatly impact my Coggansfield average price. A truer price picture is given by giving an average of two years’ worth of sales, thus reducing the effect of aberrantly high or low individual sales.

I should add that each data point represents a sale or an asking price, not a firearm. If the same weapon sells three times in two years, it counts as three data points, not one. With rare arms, this frequently occurs, with dealers increasing the price with every sale. I track sales at dozens of Internet sites weekly, sometimes daily, and I have become so familiar with some individual firearms that I see over and over again that I consider them to be old friends. It is particularly interesting to review the differences among the dealers’ claims about the same firearm and to watch the steadily hiking price. The most extreme example I have seen of rapid price escalation was that of a particularly nice, 1922-dated, low-serial-numbered SMLE mk. V. It was bought for $195 in late autumn 2005 at a mom-and-pop store and sold in early 2006 for $1,478.53 on one of the U.S. on-line auction web sites.

In future editions, I will retain the two-year methodology and use a rolling average. Thus, while this index averages sales over 2006 and 2007, next year’s will review sales from 2007 and 2008. In this manner, readers will still be able to keep track of trends in pricing.

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D. Limitations.

A note on caveats for each of the sources of figures used here: Schwing, Manowar and Coggansfield.

First, Schwing’s work is probably the most comprehensive — but it was published in 2003, meaning that it probably used 2002 data. Prices have only gone up since then, making Schwing’s cited prices dated and on the low side.

Second, Manowar’s web site was last updated in 2005, so it is reasonably current. Its given prices are for the most part considerably lower than my findings. The drawback with Manowar’s site is that it mostly does not distinguish among modified models of firearms (for example, a Lee-Metford mk. I and a mk. I* are counted as the same thing, when in fact the former is far more rare than the latter and correspondingly more expensive).

Third, my own findings are marred by the fact that, obviously, I am just one person and cannot make all that extensive a review. My methodology is to track auction sales in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, the United Kingdom and the United States (primarily the latter), gunboard “WTS” sales, dealer asking prices in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the U.K. and the U.S. (again, primarily the latter), and asking prices at the Baltimore, Maryland gunshow, the United States’ largest annual antique firearms event.

In regard to auctions and gunboard WTS listings, I only count actual sales. As for dealers and the gunshow, I count asking prices, as that is all I have to go on (I have no way of knowing if the items sold for the asking price or not). In this respect, my figures probably lead to slightly inflated averages, though the difference is unlikely to be great.

Because there are limits to number of sales I can track for each type of rifle, my numbers for each type are sometimes small — sometimes just a couple of rifles for rarer types. In each case, I state the number of rifles reviewed by me, e.g., “n=2” (meaning I tracked two rifles). Additionally, I cannot track sales of guns by “mom and pop” retailers, which frequently do not have web sites. Because sales at such establishments are often cheaper than sales from high-end, on-line dealers, my inability to include mom-and-pop sales may again have the effect of inflating my average prices. On the other hand, this factor is mitigated somewhat by the fact that I only consider scarce weapons — no SMLE mk. III* or no. 4 rifles, for example — and these little establishments do not often stock unusual firearms of the sort covered in this index.

One strength of my methodology is that I track overseas sales too. I regularly review dealer sales, WTS postings and auctions in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, South Africa and the U.K. Below, all prices are in, or have been converted to, U.S. dollar values. All sales are U.S. sales (or foreign sales to U.S. customers) unless otherwise stated. As a matter of general principle, I have found the hierarchy of expensiveness to be as follows (working from cheapest to costliest):

• South Africa.

• Australia.

• New Zealand.

• Canada.

• United States.

• United Kingdom.

As the Internet becomes ever more a standard parts of our lives, so there has been something of a globalization in Martini and Lee prices, at least within the Angloshpere (by which I mean Britain and the old dominions, plus the U.S.). While Australia and New Zealand were once markedly cheaper than Canada, and Canada noticeably cheaper than America, recent years have seen a great convergence in prices among these four countries. The outliers are South Africa, where collectible rifles can be bought at auction for very reasonable prices, and the U.K., where prices are about twice the U.S. norm.

There are too many sales of certain types of gun for me to be able to track. Readers should be aware that this index does not cover the following:

• Rifle no. 1, mk. III* (Short Magazine Lee-Enfield).

• Rifle no. 3, mks. I and I* (Pattern 1914 or P-14).

• Rifle no. 4, all marks.

• Rifle no. 5, both marks (“jungle carbine”).

• SMLE .410 single-loader musket.

Additionally, small-calibre training weapons (e.g., rifle no. 2, all marks) are not tracked, and neither are handguns.

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D. Final Observations.

The past two years have seen a noticeable drying up in the supply of long Lees and early SMLEs. For example, last year’s edition of this digest recorded 17 sales of MLM mk. I* rifles. For this year’s edition, I spotted only three such sales. Likewise, for the last edition, I ran into 21 MLM mk. IIs; for this edition, only 11. Whereas once I might have expected to come across about four SMLE mk. I rifles a year, now I see about one a year. The exception is the SMLE mk. I*** — a rifle far more common than many people suppose — which remains in fairly constant supply. The most probable explanation for all this is that these things are somewhat cyclical. If an unusually high number of long Lees changed hands over 2005-2006, the new owners may wait a few years before reselling them.

None of the above applies to Martinis, the supply of which seems to be expanding greatly, particularly the MHR mk. II rifle. The primary source of this deluge is Afghanistan, so the situation may not last forever. All the same, buyers may wish to make the most of the situation as it stands now. Martinis shown on the on-line auction sites tend to have to be listed repeatedly before being bought — or even bid on at all. Do not be shy about e-mailing a seller, asking him to lower his opening price. There is no guarantee that he will comply, but what do you have to lose by asking?

Speaking of Afghanistan, the flow of “Khyber Pass” copies and outright forgeries continues unabated. Once largely restricted to crude copies of .303 Martini-Enfields, a recent development has been an influx of copies of the Lee-Enfield no. 1, no. 4 and no. 5 rifles. The fraudsters’ fig leaf with the Martini knock-offs was that they could be billed as old British firearms “refurbished” in “British-funded” Afghan arsenals. Rest assured, this was absolute rubbish, but at least it sounded plausible. In the case of the Lees, there is no defence. These guns — and I use the term loosely — cannot for a moment be passed off as 19th century refurbs. Instead, they must be stated for what they are: intentionally fraudulent, crude fakes. To be fair, a number of the peddlers of these “rifles” do not pretend they are anything but locally made junk. However, some dealers do try to pass these monstrosities off as the real thing. These dealers — and by now, even the one-off on-line auction sellers — know they are perpetrating fraud, and many jurisdictions’ consumer-protection agencies might well be interested in these folks’ underhand activities.

Nonetheless, the ultimate line of defence is ourselves. When buyers stop purchasing these forgeries, sellers will stop peddling them. There is never, under any circumstances, any reason to buy a KP fake. If you try shooting it, you will be taking your life into your own hands. If you try using it as a parts gun, you will find that the bastard-sized parts will fit nothing on a proper British gun. If you try selling it, you will — rightly — be laughed at.

For more information, visit these web sites.

http://www.martinihenry.com/khyberpage.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Enfiel ... ass_Copies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_Enfield

In closing, nothing herein should be taken as representing definitive pricing for the named firearms. This digest is simply made up of calculations based on observations. It reflects the market, but the market can be “wrong.” For example, there are instances below of extremely rare firearms selling for extraordinarily low prices simply because the seller did not know what he had. Likewise, there are instances where firearms have sold for considerably above the sorts of prices one might reasonably expect, again because of ignorance on the part of the buyer. If you are new to firearms purchasing, I recommend you consult an appraiser before making any steep outlays. The author accepts no responsibility for selling or purchasing decisions made by readers of this index.

If you have firearms sales and pricing data you would like included in the next edition of this digest, covering 2007-2008, please e-mail Doug Munro at munro@intergroupservices.com. All information is strictly confidential: buyer’s and sellers’ names are never disclosed.

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E. Notes and References.

This section expands all abbreviations used herein and provides an extensive bibliography of sources used.

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E.1. — Pattern/Type Code.

• Natal Pattern (capitalized, no parentheses) = official or customarily used subpattern designation.

• (Natal pattern) (in parentheses, not capitalized) = unofficial subpattern designation used by author.

• Type 1, type 2, etc. = informal subpattern designation used by author.

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E.2. — Facility Abbreviations.

• BE: Blenheim Engineering Co.

• BRF: Birmingham Repair Facility (Bagot Street or Sparkbrook).

• BSA: Birmingham Small Arms Co. (thus named to 1872 and after 1897).

• BSA&M: Birmingham Small Arms & Metal Co. (same factory, thus named Dec. 1872-1897).

• EFD: RSAF Enfield.

• HB: Henry Barrel Co.

• HRB: Henry Rifled Barrel Co. (formal name for HB).

• LSA: London Small Arms Co.

• NA&A: National Arms & Ammunition Co.

• RSAF: Royal Small Arms Factory (at Enfield or Sparkbrook).

• RSARF: Royal Small Arms Repair Facility (at Bagot Street or Sparkbrook).

• Sk.: RSAF Sparkbrook.

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E.3. — Firearm Abbreviations.

• I.P.: India Pattern.

• EMR: Enfield-Martini rifle.

• LEC: Lee-Enfield carbine.

• LMC: Lee-Metford carbine.

• MEAC: Martini-Enfield artillery carbine.

• MECC: Martini-Enfield cavalry carbine.

• MER: Martini-Enfield rifle.

• MHAC: Martini-Henry artillery carbine.

• MHCC: Martini-Henry cavalry carbine.

• MHR: Martini-Henry rifle.

• MMAC: Martini-Metford artillery carbine.

• MMCC: Martini-Metford cavalry carbine.

• MMR: Martini-Metford rifle.

• MLE: Magazine Lee-Enfield rifle.

• MLM: Magazine Lee-Metford rifle.

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E.4 — Bibliography.

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BSA 1913: Birmingham Small Arms Co. (BSA). [1913]. B.S.A. Rifles and Rifle Sights: A Catalogue of Military Rifles, Target Match Rifles, High Velocity Sporting Rifles, Military and Sporting Carbines, B.S.A. Patent Rifle Sights, B.S.A. .410 Bore Shot Guns, B.S.A. Air Rifles, War Office Miniature Rifles, B.S.A. Miniature Bolt Rifles, Martini Miniature Rifles, Tubes for Sporting Shot Guns, &c. Manufactured by the Birmingham Small Arms Co. Ltd., fifth ed. Birmingham, U.K.: BSA.

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Dynes 1979: Robert J. Dynes. 1979. The Lee: British Services Rifle from 1888 to 1950. Bloomfield, Ont.: Museum Restoration Service.

Edgecombe 2003: David W. Edgecombe. 2003. Defending the Dominion: Canadian Military Rifles, 1855-1955. Ottawa, Ont.: Service Publications.

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Pam 1998: David Pam. 1998. The Royal Small Arms Factory: Enfield & Its Workers. Enfield, U.K.: David Pam.

Petrillo 1992a: Alan M. Petrillo. 1992. The Lee Enfield Number 1 Rifles. British Firearms series. Tucson, Ariz.: Excalibur Publications.

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Petrillo 1994a: _____. 1994. British Services Rifles and Carbines, 1888-1900. British Firearms series. Tucson, Ariz.: Excalibur Publications.

Petrillo 1994b: _____. 1994. The Number 5 Jungle Carbine. British Firearms series. Tucson, Ariz.: Excalibur Publications.

Reynolds 1960: E.G.B. Reynolds. 1960. The Lee-Enfield Rifle: Its History and Development from First Designs to the Present Day. London, U.K.: Herbert Jenkins.

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Skennerton 1993: _____. 1993. The Lee-Enfield Story: The Lee-Metford, Lee-Enfield, S.M.L.E. and No. 4 Series Rifles and Carbines, 1880 to the Present. Piqua, Ohio: I.D.S.A. Books.

Skennerton 1994a: _____. 1994. “.303 Rifle, No. 1, S.M.L.E. Marks III and III*: Parts Identification & Lists, S.M.L.E. Series Notes, Exploded Parts Drawings, Descriptions, Accessories & Fittings.” Small Arms Identification Series, No. 1. Piqua, Ohio: I.D.S.A. Books.

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Skennerton 1998. _____. 1998. “.303 Pattern 1914 Rifle & Sniping Variants: Parts Identification Lists, No. 3 (P ’14) Rifle Notes, Exploded Parts Drawings, Descriptions, Accessories & Fittings.” Small Arms Identification Series, No. 10. Piqua, Ohio: I.D.S.A. Books.

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Skennerton 2001b: _____. 2001. The Broad Arrow: British and Empire Factory Production, Proof, Inspection, Armourers, Unit & Issue Markings. Grants Pass, Ore.: Arms & Militaria Press.

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Stratton 2002: _____. 2002. SMLE (No. 1) Rifles Mk I and Mk II, 2nd ed., rev. British Enfield Rifles series, vol. 1. Tustin, Calif.: North Cape Publications.

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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:20 am
by coggansfield
F. Firearms Prices, 2006-2007.

Section F of this digest presents average sales and asking prices for the firearms covered by this report, namely, (a) the Martini-Henry family and its derivatives and (b) the Lee-Metford and Lee-Enfield group.

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F.1. Martini Series, by Type.

The Martini-Henry was Britain’s first purpose-built breech-loading service rifle. The Snider family of firearms that preceded the Martini was mostly, though not exclusively, made up of conversions of the muzzle-loading Pattern 1853 Enfield rifled musket and associated firearms (Skennerton 2002:5). First approved in 1871, between them, the Martini-Henry and its immediate offspring, the Martini-Metford and the Martini-Enfield, gave over 30 years’ service to the British Empire.

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F.1.1. — Trials Martinis.

TM • Martini-Henry rifle,† 1869 Trials Pattern 4B.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 1997 (live auction, Australia, condit. unknown). Price at time: AUD 4,750.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† An unknown quantity made.

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F.1.2. — Martini-Henrys.

MH • Martini-Henry Rifle,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): $900.

Manowar (very good): $800-$1,100.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,511.82 (n=22).

Coggansfield high: $2,850 (retail, U.S., Second Pattern (interim), very good+). Dec. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $530 (retail, U.S., Second Pattern (interim), presumed fine). Feb. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,720.70 (n=30).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: -12.1 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are four principal MHR mk. I subtypes available to collectors: (a) Second Pattern (early); (b) Second Pattern (interim); (c) Third Pattern; and (d) Third Pattern (upgraded). (Of the First Pattern, only a pattern and a sample arm were made.) I have never encountered a Second Pattern (early) arm, with safety catch, for sale, though I suspect that were one to became available it would attract a considerable premium over other MHR mk. I subtypes. True sticklers may also wish to consider a separate, fifth possibility: the Second Pattern (late). This has a different cleaning rod from that of the Second Pattern (interim), though the rifle itself is the same. The Second Pattern (interim) is the most common MHR mk. I, of which 2,100 were shipped to Canada in 1874. This “Canadian cache” is the source of most mk. Is in North America. Third pattern MHRs are encountered less often than Second Pattern (interim) ones, but do not appear to fetch a premium, pricewise. The other possibility is the Third Pattern (upgraded), which is a Third Pattern arm partially upgraded to mk. II. Based on an observation of five sales, these appear to fetch about 25 percent less than the regular Third Pattern and Second Pattern (interim) arms in North America. A total of 314,683 made (all patterns), most later upgraded to mk. II.

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MH • Martini-Henry Rifle,† Mk. II.†

Schwing (very good): $900.

Manowar (very good): $725-$1,050.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $985.91 (n=44).

Coggansfield high: $2,000 (retail, U.K., presumed fine). Apr. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $240 (live auction, Australia, presumed good). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $963.97 (n=35).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +2.3 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† MHR mk. IIs come in two varieties: (a) those converted from mk. I and (b) those new made. The mk. I-to-II conversions can be further subdivided according to the pattern of mk. I they were converted from. None of these variations fetches a premium over the others, with the possible exception of mk. IIs converted from mk. I, Second Pattern (early) rifles, whose early 1872 or 1873 date may add some value for novelty-related reasons. One interesting recent development has been the influx into the western market of a small number of mk. IIs made by NA&A. As recently as 1995, no NA&A mk. II was known with certainty to have survived. However, by now, over a dozen have been brought to the west and offered for sale by troops formerly stationed in Afghanistan. Given that all known NA&A mk. IIs have been brought out of Afghanistan, it is reasonable to suppose that all or virtually all surviving examples are to be found there. This means that the supply is likely to dry up once NATO troops leave that country. Despite this, the NA&As do not appear to fetch a price premium over other mk. IIs, though in part this may be explained by their cosmetically challenged condition (a common enough situation for Martinis from Afghanistan). A total of 195,820 made new, exclusive of all the mk. I rifles converted to mk. II.

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MH • Martini-Henry Rifle,† Mk. III, Type 1.††

Schwing (very good): $900.

Manowar (very good): $675-$975.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $881.14 (n=38).

Coggansfield high: $1,696 (retail, U.K., presumed fine). Apr. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $315 (live auction, Australia, presumed good+). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $747.21 (n=35).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +17.9 percent.

† Two MHR mk. III subtypes (type 1 and type 2); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Type 1: this is the basic MHR mk. III model. A total of 232,300 made, exclusive of the 20 upgraded to type 2.

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MH • Martini-Henry Rifle,† Mk. III, Type 2.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $2,978.33 (n=3).

Coggansfield high: $4,878 (retail, Australia, very good, magazine not present). Unknown date, 2006.

Coggansfield low: $600 (live auction, Australia, good, magazine not present). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $2,739.00 (n=2).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +8.7 percent.

† Two MHR mk. III subtypes (type 1 and type 2); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Type 2: the MHR mk. III, type 2 is equipped with a loop on the right side of the receiver, into which slots the tang of the Arbuthnot quick-loader magazine. Only 20 type 2s were made, all shipped to New South Wales, Australia. The Coggansfield low price of $600 cannot truly be said accurately to reflect the market; rather, the auctioneer appears not to have known what he had. Some time in 2006 another type 2, admittedly in better condition but still without the magazine, retailed in Australia for US$4,878. Two others had previously sold in Australia for US$7,500 (with the magazine still attached) and US$3,457 (without the magazine).

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MH • Martini-Henry Rifle,† Mk. IV.††

Schwing (very good): $900.

Manowar (very good): $700-$1,000.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $740.54 (n=28).

Coggansfield high: $1,631(retail, U.K., very good). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $375 (live auction, Canada, presumed very good). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $703.53 (n=45).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +5.3 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† MHR mk. IVs come in three varieties, customarily designated the A Pattern (converted from Enfield-Martini, First Pattern) , B Pattern (converted from Enfield-Martini, Second Pattern) and C Pattern (new made). None fetches a price premium over the others. A total of 100,001 made.

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MH • Martini-Henry Rifle, Mk. V.

See Martini-Metford rifle, mk. I.

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MH • Martini-Henry Rifle, Mk. VI.

See Martini-Metford rifle, mk. II.

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MH • Martini-Henry (Cavalry) Carbine,† Mk. I, First Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): $1,250.

Manowar (very good): $1,150-$1,450.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,595.00 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $1,595 (retail, U.S., fine). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Note, Schwing and Manowar do not distinguish between the First Pattern and the more common Second Pattern.

† Two MHCC mk. I subtypes (First Pattern and Second Pattern); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† First Pattern: the First Pattern carbine has no backsight-cover screws or sling swivels and, though it is not immediately visible, it has a slightly different foreend hook/plate. Only 25,300 were made, 25,000 in production year (PY) 1878 and 300 in PY 1879. First Pattern arms are very scarce, nearly all having been upgraded to Second Pattern (including the example in the Pattern Room). Legitimately, First Pattern carbines must be dated 1877 or, just possibly, 1878.

MH • Martini-Henry (Cavalry) Carbine,† Mk. I, Second Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): $1,250.

Manowar (very good): $1,150-$1,450.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,203.44 (n=18).

Coggansfield high: $4,316 (live auction, Australia, excellent+, possibly unfired). May. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $399 (on-line auction, Afghan bring-back, fair). Nov. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $742.72 (n=9).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +62.0 percent (all due to the Australian auction sale).

Note, Schwing and Manowar do not distinguish between the First Pattern and the more common Second Pattern.

† Two MHCC mk. I subtypes (First and Second patterns); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Second Pattern: the Second Pattern carbine has backsight-cover screws and sometimes sling swivels. Though it is not immediately visible, it also a slightly different foreend hook/plate. Second Pattern arms may legitimately carry dates from any MHCC production year, given that most First Pattern carbines were upgraded to Second Pattern. They are much more common than First Pattern carbines. A total of 49,595 made, exclusive of those upgraded from First Pattern.

MH • Martini-Henry Garrison Artillery Carbine.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

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MH • Martini-Henry Artillery Carbine,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,196.19 (n=13).

Coggansfield high: $2,241 (live auction, Australia, very good+). May 2007.

Coggansfield low: $581 (live auction, Australia, presumed very good-). Sep. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $843.43 (n=7).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +41.8 percent (mostly due to the high-end Australian auction sale).

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 59,819 made.

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MH • Martini-Henry Artillery Carbine,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): $1,250.

Manowar (very good): $1,100-$1,400.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,060.42 (n=9).

Coggansfield high: $1,314 (retail, U.K., presumed very good). Feb. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $839 (retail, U.K., presumed fair). May 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $804.67 (n=3).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +31.8 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes (except if one considers the subtype of MHR mk. II from which it was converted).

†† A total of 38,407 made.

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MH • Martini-Henry Artillery Carbine, Mk. III.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

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F.1.3. — Enfield-Martinis.

EM • Enfield-Martini Rifle,† Mk. I, First Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† Two EMR mk. I subtypes (First Pattern and Second Pattern); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Complicated rifle, looking like a .402 version of the .40 Pattern 1883 Experimental Rifle. Fitted for Arbuthnot quick loader. Foreend has no “walls” enclosing the sides of the barrel. A total of 21,732 made, virtually all converted to MHR mk. IV, A Pattern.

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EM • Enfield-Martini Rifle,† Mk. I, Second Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $11,250.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (approx. value of trade between dealers, Australia). Price at time: AUD 15,000 (US$11,250, as shown above).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† Two EMR mk. I subtypes (First Pattern and Second Pattern); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† A much simpler rifle than the First Pattern. The Second Pattern looks like a .402 version of the MHR mk. IV. A total of 42,902 made, virtually all converted to MHR mk. IV, B Pattern.

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F.1.4. — Martini-Metfords.

MM • Martini-Metford Rifle, Mk. I.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

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MM • Martini-Metford Rifle, Mk. I,† Modified, Western Australia Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,272 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $1,272 (live auction, Australia, commercial trade pattern model, fine). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,272 (n=1), same gun as above.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Special order of 700 for Western Australia in 1895, made by BSA&M. Fewer than half a dozen are known to survive. Therefore, pricing analysis is restricted to commercial copies. Should one of the original 700 surface on the market, it can reasonably be expected that it would fetch a premium over the commercial rifles.

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MM • Martini-Metford Rifle,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Leaving aside colonial variations (Canada and Natal patterns, etc.), the MMR mk. II has two subtypes: (a) that retaining its original Lewes Patent sights and (b) that with a barleycorn substituted. It seems likely that the Lewes-sighted version, if one still extant were found, would fetch a premium over the barleycorn type. Of both sorts combined, 9,600 were made, all new made and all by BSA&M. In previous editions of this publication, I have considered MMR mk. IIs with replacement Enfield-rifled and -profiled barrels to be considered as MMRs for pricing purposes. I have here discontinued this practice, as such rifles should more properly be thought of a variations on the MER mk. II.

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MM • Martini-Metford Rifle, Mk. II,† Canada Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,420.33 (n=3).

Coggansfield high: $2,026 (retail, Canada, very good+, with rod). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $725 (personal sale, U.S., very good-, spliced foreend, no rod). Mar. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,555.00 (n=2).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: -8.7 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Special order of 1,000 for Canada in 1894, plus 1 sample arm. Barleycorn substituted for Lewes Patent sights. Sighted to 1,600 yards for blackpowder instead of cordite. Should be counted in with, not in addition to, the 9,600 made of the base model.

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MM • Martini-Metford Rifle,† Mk. II, Natal Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Special order of 760 for Natal in 1894 or 1895. Fitted with a handguard between the nocksform and the backsight. Barleycorn substituted for Lewes Patent sights. Sighted to 1,800 yards for cordite. Should be counted in with, not in addition to, the 9,600 made of the base model.

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MM • Martini-Metford Rifle (Mk. II),† South Australian Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,700.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (personal sale, refinished wood, otherwise very good). Price at time: US$1,700 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: 1997 (live auction, Australia, condit. unknown). Price at time: AUD 1,050.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Special order of 500 for South Australia in 1891-92. Though built using a mk. II-style pinned foreend, the rifle in most other respects resembled the mk. I, modified, Western Australia Pattern. The South Australian model carried no official mark designation. The conversions were done in 1891 and 1892 by HRB, based on MHR mk. II rifles. The South Australia Martini-Metford is a different model from the MMR mk. II, and so the production figure of 500 should be counted in addition to the 9,600 made of the MMR mk. II base model.

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MM • Martini-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $693 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $693 (live auction, New Zealand, commercial trade-pattern model, presumed very good). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 11,150 made, most later upgraded to mk. I*.

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MM • Martini-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I*.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 1997 (live auction, Australia, condit. unknown). Price at time: AUD 500.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are two subtypes of MMCC mk. I*. The type 1 MMCC mk. I* was directly converted from MHCC mk. I, with no more than 114 made (possibly as few as 14; the records are ambiguous). The type 2 MMCC mk. I* was an upgrade of the MMCC mk. I, of which 11,150 were made. The sole difference between the mk. I and the mk. I* was the front sight, a bare barleycorn on the mk. I, but protected by wings on the mk. I*. The vast majority of mk. Is appear to have been upgraded to mk. I*, type 2. As these, if encountered, are visually indistinguishable from the type 1, there is little to be gained from hypothesizing about possible price differentials between the two.

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MM • Martini-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,100.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (personal sale, U.S., excellent-). Price at time: US$1,100 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 850 made, most later upgraded to mk. II*.

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MM • Martini-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. II*.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $800 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (personal sale, U.S., very good). Price at time: US$800 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are two subtypes of MMCC mk. II*. The type 1 MMCC mk. II* was directly converted from MHAC mk. I, with only 4 made. The type 2 MMCC mk. II* was an upgrade of the MMCC mk. II, of which 850 were made. The sole difference between the mk. II and the mk. II* was the front sight, a bare barleycorn on the mk. II, but protected by wings on the mk. II*. The maximum number of mk. II* carbines there can ever have been is 654, as it is believed that, apart from 200 mk. IIs shipped to Canada in 1894, all other mk. IIs were upgraded to mk. II*, type 2. As these, if encountered, are visually indistinguishable from the type 1, there is little to be gained from hypothesizing about possible price differentials between the two.



MM • Martini-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. III.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,774.50 (n=2).

Coggansfield high: $2,614 (retail, U.K., presumed very good). Feb. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $935 (live auction, Australia, very good-). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,499.67 (n=3).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +18.3 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 4,296 made.

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MM • Martini-Metford Cavalry Carbine, Mk. III,† Natal Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $450.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (personal sale, U.S., fair-). Price at time: US$450 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Same as MMCC mk. III but with a three-quarter length handguard. Special order of 1,780 for Natal. Should be counted in with, not in addition to, the 4,296 made of the base model.

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MM • Martini-Metford Artillery Carbine, Mk. I.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

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MM • Martini-Metford Artillery Carbine,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $935.00 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $935 (live auction, Australia, very good-). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $935.00 (n=1), same gun as above.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 2,751 made.

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MM • Martini-Metford Artillery Carbine, Mk. II*.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

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MM • Martini-Metford Artillery Carbine,† Mk. III.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $610.30 (n=10).

Coggansfield high: $1,028 (retail, Canada, fine-). Feb. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $375 (on-line auction, U.S., sporterised, fair-). Jun. 2005.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $539.57 (n=7).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +13.1 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 47,001 made.

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F.1.5. — Martini-Enfields.

ME • Martini-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I, Types 1 and 3.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): $700-$875.*

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $494.38 (n=13).

Coggansfield high: $840 (live auction, New Zealand, very good). May 2007.

Coggansfield low: $195 (live auction, Australia, presumed very good). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $511.78 (n=23).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: -3.4 percent.

† Three MER mk. I subtypes (type 1, type 2 and type 3); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield. Types 1 and 3, this entry; type 2, next entry.

†† There are three subtypes of MER mk. I: (a) conversions from the standard MHR mk. III (type 1) and (b), much less commonly, military new-made arms (type 3). The MHR mk. III conversions can be further subdivided according to whether they were converted from the type 1 MHR mk. III (standard model) or the type 2 MHR mk. III (fitted for the Arbuthnot quick loader), the latter constituting the type 2 MER mk. I. The new-made MERs and the standard MHR mk. III conversions fetch no premium one over the other. The type 2 MHR mk. III conversion is described below. A total of 48,6210 made (all subtypes).

* Described as “Martini-Enfield mk. 4.” In fact, no such rifle existed. Presumably Manowar means the MER mk. I.

ME • Martini-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I, Type 2.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,699.00 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $1,699 (live auction, Australia, fine-). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Three MER mk. I subtypes (type 1, type 2 and type 3); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield. Types 1 and 3, previous entry; type 2, this entry.

†† The type 2 MER mk. I is converted from the type 2 MHR mk. III, of which only 20 were made (they were fitted for the Arbuthnot quick loader and shipped to N.S.W.). Four of these are known by me to survive intact, meaning that the maximum number of type 2 MER mk. Is there can ever have been is 16, assuming that all the unaccounted for type 2 MHR mk. IIIs were converted to MER (which is unlikely). The types 1 and 3 MER mk. Is fetch no premium one over the other. As for the type 2 MHR mk. III conversion, only the one described in this entry is known by me with certainty to exist. Its October 2007 Australian auction price of US$1,699 indicates a premium of about 250 percent over the types 1 and 3, but no statistical inference can be drawn from this.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Rifle, Mk. I*.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I, Fitted to Take the Pattern 1887 Bayonet.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Special order of 500 for Queensland in 1898, with MHR-like noseband. Should be counted in with, not in addition to, the 48,610 made of the base model.



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ME • Martini-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I, Fitted to Take the Pattern 1888 Bayonet.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $230.00 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $230 (live auction, New Zealand, very good). May 2006. (Note: this rifle constituted the “low” rifle in last year’s price guide. That edition’s “high” sale is now too long ago for inclusion herein.)

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,068.33 (n=3).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: -78.5 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are two subtypes of MER mk. I Patt. ’88: (a) military conversions of the MHR mk. III, of which 200 were made by special order for Western Australia, and apparently a small but unknown quantity for New Zealand, and (b) new-made trade-pattern arms, an unknown quantity of which were made and which may sometimes bear military ownership, though not military manufacture, stamps. In the case of the Australian arms (which are in the production records), these seem to have been configured to Patt. ’88 standards before issue. As for the New Zealand ones (which are not in the records), certain rifles seem to have originally been standard MER mk. I conversions, later upgraded to Patt. ’88 configuration by the retrofitting of new, purpose-made foreends (these foreends not being cut-down versions of the standard MER foreend). I have only encountered two of the latter subtype, both from New Zealand. The New Zealand weapons should be counted in with, not in addition to, the 48,610 made of the base model; the Western Australian weapons should be counted in addition to the base number.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $639.32 (n=11).

Coggansfield high: $1,167 (retail, U.K., presumed very good). Sep. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $210 (live auction, Australia, presumed very good). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $463.42 (n=12).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +37.9 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are two subtypes of MER mk. II: (a) conversions of MHR mk. II and (b), much less commonly, military new-made arms. Neither fetches a premium over the other. A total of 40,023 made.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Rifle, Mk. II*.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. II, Fitted to Take the Pattern 1888 Bayonet.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,320.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (retail, U.S., excellent). Price at time: US$1,320 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Special order in 1899 for 100 by an unknown Australian colony (probably Western Australia). The only specimen known by me to survive is dated 1900, is sighted for cordite, and is converted from MHR mk. II; it is in Australia. This constitutes type 1. New-made, commercial arms make up type 2. The single specimen priced above, though military in origin, is probably an after-market conversion to the bayonet-taking pattern and, as such, may be classified as a type 2. The type 1s should be counted in with, not in addition to, the 40,023 made of the base model.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $393.13 (n=4).

Coggansfield high: $650 (personal sale, U.S., very good). Jun. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $165 (live auction, Australia, good). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: 361.78 (n=10).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +8.7 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 5,990 made.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I (Natal pattern).††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Colonial variation not mentioned in records. Differs from base MECC mk. I model in having a three-quarter length handguard along the barrel (like the MMCC mk. III, Natal Pattern). Unknown quantity made, but should be counted in with, not in addition to, the 5,990 made of the base model.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I*.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $196.00 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $196.00 (live auction, South Africa, very good-). Aug. 2006.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $196.00 (n=1), same gun as above.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are two subtypes of MECC mk. I*. Officially, only one MECC mk. I* was made, the pattern arm, this being the type 1 (converted from MHR mk. II). It was a rodless version of the mk. I, having no provision for a clearing rod at all. However, in 1906 a small quantity of 1903-dated, mk. I*-stamped, new-made “barrels with bodies” (i.e., barrelled actions) was sent to South Africa, there to be mated with recycled cavalry carbine woodwork. Issued without rods, these firearms were in effect MECC mk. I* carbines, type 2. (These may or may not have handguards, depending on the model that was cannibalised to provide the wood.) Scarce even in South Africa, they are exceedingly rare elsewhere. The type 1 Pattern Room sample is dated 1899, but the type 2s all appear to be dated 1903. As the pattern arm is the only type 1 known to exist, all discussion here pertains to the type 2.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $800.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (personal sale, fine-). Price at time: US$800 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Special order of 965 for New South Wales, converted from MHAC mk. I. Has no clearing-rod provision.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Artillery Carbine,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $577.09 (n=11).

Coggansfield high: $1,227 (retail, Canada, good+). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $224 (live auction, New Zealand, presumed very good). May 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $490.56 (n=25).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +17.6 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 44,718 made.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Artillery Carbine, Mk. I*.†

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Artillery Carbine,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $705.33 (n=3).

Coggansfield high: $896 (live auction, New Zealand, good+). May 2007.

Coggansfield low: $425 (on-line auction, U.S., very good+ but needed new butt). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $616.00 (n=9)

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +14.5 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are two subtypes of MEAC mk. II: (a) conversions from MHAC mk. I and (b), much less commonly, military new-made arms. Neither fetches a premium over the other. A total of 26,185 made.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Artillery Carbine,† Mk. II*.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $706.00 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $706 (on-line auction, U.S., type 1, fine+). Mar. 2006.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $703 (n=2).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +0.4 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The MEAC mk. II* was a rodless version of the MEAC mk. II. There are two subtypes of MEAC mk. II*: (a) direct conversions from MHAC mk. I, of which 4,481 were made (type 1), and (b) upgrades from MEAC mk. II, upgraded by having a solid, non-rod-accommodating nosecap installed (type 2). It is not known how many were upgraded in this manner. Based on just two known sales, one of each type (in, respectively, 2005 and 2006), it seems that neither fetches a premium over the other.

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ME • Martini-Enfield Artillery Carbine,† Mk. III.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $640.90 (n=10).

Coggansfield high: $1,399 (on-line auction, U.S., good). Aug. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $290 (on-line auction, U.S., fair+). Jun. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $547.50 (n=6).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +17.1 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 25,035 made.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:20 am
by coggansfield
F.2. Lee Series, by Type.

Reliable as it may have been, by the 1880s the large-calibre, single-shot Martini-Henry represented yesterday’s technology. Accordingly, that decade saw the British War Department undertake various trials with relatively small-bore repeating firearms. The eventual result was the adoption in late 1888 of the Lee-Metford rifle, mk. I, featuring an action and magazine design by James Paris Lee and a rifling system by William Ellis Metford, shooting a .303-inch rimmed version of the Swiss Rubin cartridge (Skennerton 1993:17-45). The mk. I had a number of flaws, but the basic system proved remarkably resilient. The direct descendants of the MLM Mk. I — Lee-Enfield rifles nos. 1 and 4 — are still in common use in the third world today, some 12 decades later.

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F.2.1. — Trials Lees.

TL • Owen Jones Rifle.†

Schwing (very good): $4,750.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† A total of about 4 made, with variations among them.

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TL • Lee-Burton Rifle.†

Schwing (very good): $4,750.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† A total of 351 made, with variations among them.

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TL • Improved Lee Rifle.†

Schwing (very good): $3,000.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† A total of 302 made, with variations among them.

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TL • Magazine Rifle, 1888 Trials Model.†

Schwing (very good): $3,750.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† A total of 437 made, with variations among them.

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TL • Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I (experimental sighting model).††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $400 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (retail, U.S., bought as part of package of 4 rifles, very good-). Price at time: US$400 (as shown above; seller had no idea what he had).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† Possibly a Lockyer experimental rifle, it appears to be the same as that described at RB218 of Woodend’s Catalogue of The Enfield Pattern Room: British Rifles. Seller did not know the rifle was an experimental model.

†† Unknown number made.

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TL • Magazine Lee-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Second Trials Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,995 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $1,995 (retail, U.S., mismatched bolt, good+). Feb. 2006.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,995.00 (n=1), same gun as above.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The 1892 Second Pattern LMC trials carbine had two subtypes. The type 1, of which 100 were made, had a normal MLM-style bolt, a 10-round magazine and no handguard. The type 2, of which 50 were converted from type 1, had a unique trials bolt, a 6-round magazine and a three-quarter-length handguard. (Neither type was the same as the 1889 8-round-magazine First Pattern.) The specimen reported on here is currently in type 1 configuration but shows evidence of perhaps once having been a type 2. Only three of these carbines are known by me still to exist: this type 1 and two type 2s.

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F.2.2. — Lee-Metfords.

MLM • Magazine Lee-Metford Rifle,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): $450.

Manowar (very good): $310-510.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 1997 (live auction, Australia, type 1, with safety catch, condit. unknown). Price at time: AUD 7,750.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

Note, Manowar does not distinguish between the mk. I and the more common mk. I*.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are five subtypes of MLM mk. I, each characterised by the elimination or addition of certain characteristics vis-à-vis the pattern arm and eventually culminating in a final mk. I subtype virtually indistinguishable from the mk. I*. All types, save the type 4, were sighted, though poorly, for cordite. In summary, the types are these: (a) type 1, per 1888 pattern entry; (b) type 2, buttstock brass crosspin eliminated; (c) type 3, safety catch eliminated; (d) type 4, replacement Lewes sights fitted, sighted for blackpowder; and (e) type 5, Lewes sights cancelled and converted to cordite-sighted barleycorn. A total of 359,503 made of mk. I and mk. I* combined (the records do not distinguish between the two).

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MLM • Magazine Lee-Metford Rifle,† Mk. I*.††

Schwing (very good): $450.

Manowar (very good): See above.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,123.33 (n=3).

Coggansfield high: $1,295 (retail, U.S., type 3, good+). Dec. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $900 (personal sale, condition unknown). Summer 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $940.62 (n=17).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +19.4 percent.

Note, Manowar does not distinguish between the mk. I and the more common mk. I*.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are five subtypes of MLM mk. I*, the first four being conversions from various subtypes of MLM mk. I and the fifth being a new-made arm. (There are only four conversion subtypes, not five, because, once converted to mk. I*, the mk. I types 3 and 4 cannot be distinguished.) The new-made MLM mk. I* rifles are rare and it may reasonably be expected that buyers would be willing to pay a premium for them. However, as only one sale of a type 5 has been observed (in 2005), this cannot be stated with certainty, though it bears pointing out that this type 5 sold for the equal-highest sum of any the MLM mk. I* rifles I have seen ($1,500). The other four subtypes do not fetch a premium one over the other. A total of 359,503 made of mk. I and mk. I* combined (the records do not distinguish between the two).

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MLM • Magazine Lee-Metford Rifle,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): $450.

Manowar (very good): $290-480.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,324.18 (n=11).

Coggansfield high: $3,250 (retail, U.S., Lee-Speed trade pattern, all matching, excellent). Jun. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $490 (live auction, New Zealand, very good). May 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,149.71 (n=21).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +15.2 percent.

Note, Manowar does not distinguish between the mk. II and the less common mk. II*.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 252,075 made.

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MLM • Magazine Lee-Metford Rifle,† Mk. II*.††

Schwing (very good): $400.

Manowar (very good): See above.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,387.50 (n=2).

Coggansfield high: $1,680 (retail, Canada, Lee-Speed trade pattern, all matching, excellent-). Feb. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $1,095 (retail, U.S., military (Sk.), all matching but for backsight, fine-). Mar. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,090 (n=3)

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +27.3 percent.

Note, Manowar does not distinguish between the mk. II and the less common mk. II*.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† While the MLM mk. II* has no subtypes, a distinction should be drawn between the commercial models and the military. The commercial ones are somewhat scarce, while the military ones are rare. The average price cited above includes one military rifle, in extremely nice condition, which retailed for a surprisingly modest $1,095. It is doubtful that this represents the true market price for the military specimens. A total of 13,479 made.

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MLM • Magazine Lee-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I, Type 1.††

Schwing (very good): $700.

Manowar (very good): $525-685.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $2,104.50 (n=5).

Coggansfield high: $3,500 (retail, U.S., all matching, rod and ring removed, very good+). Jun. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $1,100 (live auction, U.S., rod present but broken, ring removed, very good). Feb. 2006. (This carbine was subsequently resold by the dealer who bought it, for $1,895.)

Coggansfield average, last edition: $2,075.25 (n=8).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +1.4 percent.

† Four LMC mk. I subtypes (types 1, 2, 3 and 4); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Type 1: base model with D-ring (usually now missing) and butt sling bar. A total of 16,661 made, after deducting other subtypes and conversions to other models.

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MLM • Magazine Lee-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I, Type 2.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,625.00 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $1,625 (personal sale, U.S., mismatched bolt, repro rod, bore ring and poor bore, very good- (much higher but for bore)). Feb. 2007.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† Four LMC mk. I subtypes (types 1, 2, 3 and 4); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Type 2: made in spring 1896, with no D-ring but with the sling bar. Rare, 735 made in total.

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MLM • Magazine Lee-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I, Type 3.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† Four LMC mk. I subtypes (types 1, 2, 3 and 4); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Type 3: made from summer 1896 onward, with neither D-ring nor sling bar. Rare, probably about 800 made.

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MLM • Magazine Lee-Metford Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I, Type 4.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (on-line auction, U.S., all matching, excellent). Price at time: US$1,900.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† Four LMC mk. I subtypes (types 1, 2, 3 and 4); pricing distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† Type 4: made or assembled in 1899 to mk. I* specifications, i.e., with no provision for a clearing rod. Rare, quantity made unknown but doubtless very small.

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F.2.3. — Lee-Enfields.

MLE • Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): $750.

Manowar (very good): $525-850.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,112.31 (n=29).

Coggansfield high: $2,375 (retail, U.S., all matching, very good-). Jun. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $270 (live auction, Australia, presumed very good-). Sep. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,032.55 (n=49).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +7.7 percent.

Note, Manowar does not distinguish between the Mk. I and the Mk. I*.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 317,196 made.

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MLE • Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I*.††

Schwing (very good): $750.

Manowar (very good): See above.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $737.65 (n=17).

Coggansfield high: $2,550 (retail, U.S., all matching, excellent). Dec. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $310 (live auction, New Zealand, very good-). May 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $742.10 (n=29).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: -0.6 percent.

Note, Manowar does not distinguish between the mk. I and the mk. I*.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The MLE mk. I* comes in two varieties: (a) the type 1 base model, a rodless version of the mk. I, and (b) the late model type 2, which is fitted with a butt as on a SMLE mk. I (i.e., a butt with a sheet steel buttplate with no trap). I have observed no type 2 sales, so cannot say if the type 2 would fetch a premium over the type 1. A total of 590,841 made.

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MLE • Magazine Lee-Enfield,† Single-loader Rifle (British conversion).††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are possibly a number of subtypes of this firearm, these being differentiated from each other on the basis of what sort of long Lee they were converted from (2,000 were converted in total). However, as no sales have been observed, speculation is pointless.

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MLE • Magazine Lee-Enfield Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): $700.

Manowar (very good): $540-825.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,880.00 (n=5).

Coggansfield high: $3,975 (retail, U.S., all matching, rod removed, excellent). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $375 (live auction, Canada, presumed very good-). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,189.41 (n=17).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +58.1 percent.

Note, Schwing and Manowar do not distinguish between the Mk. I and the Mk. I*.

† This model has no known subtypes. (In previous editions of this price digest, I have stated that there are two subtypes of LEC mk. I. I now believe this to be incorrect. My earlier opinion as to the existence of what I called the type 2 was based on examination of a single specimen with unusually squared and tall nosecap “ears.” Not having encountered another, nor having found anyone else ever seeing such a thing, I now believe the specimen in question to have been a one-off oddity, possibly an after-market modification, rather than a sample of a separate subtype of LEC.)

†† A total of 11,926 made, after deducting conversions to other models.

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MLE • Magazine Lee-Enfield Cavalry Carbine,† Mk. I*.††

Schwing (very good): $700.

Manowar (very good): See above.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,597.50 (n=4).

Coggansfield high: $2,575 (retail, U.S., all matching, billed as “low excellent” but on close inspection no better than good+ (reblued, restained and with inappropriate replacement parts)). Dec. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $640 (live auction, New Zealand, very good). May. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,369.17 (n=6).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +16.7 percent.

Note, Manowar does not distinguish between the mk. I and the less common mk. I*.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† Leaving aside rare LMC subtypes, of the three Lee cavalry carbine base models — LMC mk. I, LEC mk. I and LEC mk. I* — the mk. I* is by far the least common, despite having been made in the greatest quantity. A total of 18,647 made, after deducting conversions to other models.

MLE • Magazine Lee-Enfield Carbine,† India Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good):N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are theoretically two subtypes of India Pattern carbine, those converted LEC mk. I and those from LEC mk. I*. This model was approved in the Indian List of Changes, though not the British. It is not known if any were actually made. Fitted with a nosecap for the Pattern 1888 bayonet, the carbine, if made, probably looked something like the RIC carbine.

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MLE • Magazine Lee-Enfield Carbine,† Fitted to Take the Pattern 1888 Bayonet, a.k.a. New Zealand Pattern Carbine.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $875.25 (n=8).

Coggansfield high: $1,475 (retail, U.S., very good-). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $450 (gunshow, U.S., very good). Aug. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $766.78 (n=9).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +14.1 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are three subtypes of NZ carbine: (a) type 1, built on purpose-made receivers with all new parts, of which 1,000 were made; (b) type 2, new made but built on receivers originally intended for LEC mk. I*s, of which about 440 were made; and (c) type 3, either converted from LMC mk. Is or, more likely, built on receivers cannibalized from rejected LMCs, of which about 60 were made. None fetches a price premium over the others, despite the scarcity of the type 3.

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MLE • Magazine Lee-Enfield Carbine,† Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): $400.

Manowar (very good): $700-1,200 for Lee-Enfield mk. I or mk. I* conversion ($500-700 for Lee-Metford conversion).

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,210.71 (n=14).

Coggansfield high: $1,650 (retail, U.S., fine). Mar. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $400 (personal sale, U.S., good+). May 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,097.11 (n=19).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +10.4 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† There are three subtypes of RIC carbine, converted, in declining order of production quantity, from LEC mk. I* (8,000), LEC mk. I (2,000) and LMC mk. I (1,200). None fetches a price premium over the others, despite the relative scarcity of the type 3.

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F.2.4. — Charger Loading Lees.

CL • Charger Loading Lee-Metford Magazine Rifle,† Mk. I*, India Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Note, there is no CLLM mk. I.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

†† MLM mk. I* converted to charger loading by the addition of a charger-guide bolthead, as on the SMLE mk. I.

CL • Charger Loading Lee-Metford Magazine Rifle,† Mk. II.††

Schwing (very good): $405 (Schwing’s formula is 10 percent less than base rifle).

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,563.14 (n=7).

Coggansfield high: $2,450 (retail, U.S., Lee-Speed vol. pattern, all matching, very good+). Sep. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $1,100 (retail, U.S., Lee-Speed vol. pattern, all matching, very good, missing a couple of parts). Oct. 2007. (This rifle was subsequently resold by the dealer who bought it, for $1,500.)

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,675.00 (n=5).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: -6.7 percent.

Note, there is no CLLM mk. I.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† CLLM mk. IIs come in two varieties: (a) those converted from MLM mk. II and (b) those new made (commercial Lee-Speed “Territorial Service Pattern” rifles). The commercial CLLMs are scarce, while the military conversions are outright rare. It is quite possible that buyers would pay a premium for a military model as against a commercial one. However, as no military sale has been observed, this must remain conjecture. All the rifles reviewed for this analysis were commercial models. At least 4,454 made, but how many more is unknown. Many subsequently upgraded to CLLE mk. I*.

CL • Charger Loading Lee-Metford Magazine Rifle,† Mk. II, India Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Note, there is no CLLM mk. I.

† Pattern arm and/or sample arms only made.

†† MLM mk. II converted to charger loading by the addition of a charger-guide bolthead, as on the SMLE mk. I.

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CL • Charger Loading Lee-Enfield Magazine Rifle,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): $675 (Schwing’s formula is 10 percent less than base rifle).

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $450.00 (n=2).

Coggansfield high: $500 (personal sale, U.S., replacement barrel, mismatched sight and bolt, good+ (would have graded better but for replacement foreend)). Mar. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $400 (personal sale, U.S., same gun as “high,” resold at “high” price about a year after purchase at this “low” price). Feb. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $894.33 (n=3).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: -49.7 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† CLLE mk. Is come in three varieties, respectively, those converted from MLE mk. I, MLE mk. I* and MLM mk. II*. Of the two MLE conversion possibilities, there seems no reason to suppose that one would be more sought after than the other. The other possibility, the MLM mk. II* conversion, might fetch a premium, given the scarcity of the base model. I have never encountered a CLLE mk. I converted from MLM mk. II* (though I did once see a detached receiver of what had once been such a rifle). At least 778 made, but how many more is unknown.

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CL • Charger Loading Lee-Enfield Magazine Rifle,† Mk. I, India Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2004 (unknown type of sale, sportered, mismatched but correct bolt). Price at time: US$75 plus, subsequently, about another $500 in restoration costs.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The CLLE mk. I, I.P. theoretically has two subtypes, distinguished from each other by the model of long Lee from which they were converted (MLE mk. I or MLE mk. I*). It is doubtful that one would fetch a premium over the other. However, this discussion can remain nothing but theoretical (a) because no sales of any mk. I I.P.s have been observed and (b) because of Ishapore’s habit of grinding former markings off converted rifles, this obscuring the model of origin anyway. I cannot place a market value on this model. Clearly, the $75 paid for the one described above is very low. A total of 22,000 made, nearly all subsequently converted to SMLE mk. I** I.P.

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CL • Charger Loading Lee-Enfield Magazine Rifle,† Mk. I*.††

Schwing (very good): $ $675 (formula is 10 percent less than base rifle).

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,023.21 (n=7).

Coggansfield high: $2,450 (retail, U.S., all matching, fine). Nov. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $535 (live auction, U.S., mismatched bolt, very good). Apr. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $938.00 (n=10).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +9.1 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† CLLE mk. I* rifles have four subtypes, respectively, (a) those converted from MLE mk. I, (b) those converted from MLE mk. I*, (c) those converted from MLM mk. II*, and (d) those upgraded from CLLM mk. II. Of the two MLE conversion possibilities, there seems no reason to suppose that one would be more sought after than the other; the same seems to go for the CLLM upgrades.. The other possibility, the MLM mk. II* conversion, might fetch a premium, given the scarcity of the base model, but I have seen no sale of such a rifle. A total of about 327,680 made.

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CL • Charger Loading Lee-Enfield Magazine Rifle,† Mk. II, India Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The CLLE mk. II, I.P. theoretically has three subtypes: (a) MLE mk. I conversion, (b) MLE mk. I* conversion or (c) CLLE mk. I, I.P. upgrade. It is doubtful that one would fetch a premium over the others. However, this discussion can remain nothing but theoretical (a) because no sales of any mk. I I.P.s have been observed and (b) because of Ishapore’s habit of grinding former markings off converted rifles, this obscuring the model of origin anyway. A total of 54,000 made, nearly all subsequently converted to SMLE mk. I** I.P.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:21 am
by coggansfield
F.2.5. — Trials Short Lees.

ST • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† trials model.††

Schwing (very good): $1,150.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† SMLE trials rifles come in two varieties: (a) the A Pattern and (b) the B Pattern. I cannot determine if one subtype would fetch a premium over the other, as no sales have been recorded. Of the A Pattern, about 555 were made; of the B Pattern, about 500.

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F.2.6. — Short Lees.

SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I.††

Schwing (very good): $600.

Manowar (very good): $350-560.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $836.25 (n=2).

Coggansfield high: $1,012 (live auction, Australia, presumed all matching, fine). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $660 (live auction, Australia, presumed all matching, very good). Oct. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $594.81 (n=8).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +40.6 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 338,097 made.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle†, Mk. I*.††

Schwing (very good): $550.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $886.00 (n=4).

Coggansfield high: $1,335 (live auction, Australia, all matching, very good+). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $459 (live auction, New Zealand, presumed all matching, fair+). May 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $798.80 (n=5).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +10.9 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† SMLE mk. I* rifles come in two varieties: (a) those new made to mk. I* specifications (type 1) and (b) those upgraded from mk. I (type 2). I cannot determine if one subtype would fetch a premium over the other, as three of the four sales reviewed here were of the new-made mk. I* type and the other was of type unknown. Of the type 1s, a total of 87,187 were made. As for the type 2s, there are no records of how many mk. Is were thus upgraded.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I*, India Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 3,020 made, nearly all subsequently converted to SMLE mk. I** I.P.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield,† Mk. I**.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2004 (on-line forum sale, U.S., very good). Price at time: US$340.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† This model was a naval upgrade of existing SMLE mk. I rifles to improved specifications. The number made is unknown.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I**, India Pattern.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $440.08 (n=6).

Coggansfield high: $675 (retail, U.S., all matching, excellent). Jan. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $250 (on-line auction, U.S., mismatched bolt, very good). Jan. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $333.50 (n=5).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +32.0 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The purpose of this model was to conform various previous models to the specifications of the SMLE mk. III. The SMLE mk. I** I.P. has a number of subtypes, at minimum (a) those upgraded from SMLE mk. I and mk. I*, (b) those converted from miscellaneous long Lees and India Pattern charger loaders, and (c) those refurbished from SMLE mk. III and mk. III*. Each of these subtypes has two or three sub-subtypes, to boot. Surprisingly, the SMLE mk. I** I.P. is not all that collectible and I suspect that such subtype subtleties are lost on most buyers. Additionally, Ishapore’s habit of grinding former markings off converted rifles, this obscuring the model of origin, makes it difficult to distinguish among the subtypes. As such, I doubt if any subtype fetches a premium over another. A total of 180,000 made.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. I***.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $907.42 (n=12).

Coggansfield high: $1,791 (retail, U.K., all matching, very good+). Jul. 2006.

Coggansfield low: $355 (on-line auction, U.S., very good). Mar. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $719.56 (n=16).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +26.1 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† This model was an army (“land”) upgrade of existing SMLE mk. I* rifles to improved specifications. Often, mk. I*** rifles are encountered converted from mk. I instead of mk. I*, these constituting the two subtypes. There is nothing to suggest that these mk. I conversions are valued by collectors more than the mk. I* conversions, nor vice-versa. The majority of mk. I and mk. I* rifles ended up as mk. I*** upgrades. Skennerton suggests that a minimum of $16,208 mk. I*** rifles were made, but this seems likely to be a great underestimate.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. II, Cond.††

Schwing (very good): $200.

Manowar (very good): $260-425.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,200 (n=1).

Coggansfield high: $1,200 (retail, U.S., mismatched nosecap, very good but for SMLE mk. III foreend). Dec. 2007.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The SMLE mk. II cond. rifle has four subtypes, those converted from (a) MLM mk. II, (b) MLM mk. II*, (c) MLE mk. I and (d) MLE mk. I*. The purpose of the conversion was to produce a model made to SMLE mk. I specifications. Though occasionally encountered as again converted into .22 trainers, mk. II cond. rifles in .303 are very scarce, and I doubt that any buyer would be in a position to be choosy enough as to make a price distinction among the sub-varieties. A total of 43,295 made.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. II*, Cond.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,500 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (personal sale, U.S., matched bolt, very good). Price at time: US$1,500 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The SMLE mk. II* cond. program was a conversion similar to the mk. II cond., except that the converted rifles were brought up to SMLE mk. I* specifications (not mk. I). The base models were as for the mk. II cond., producing four subtypes. For the reasons outlined above, I doubt if any subtype would fetch a premium over another. A total of 22,191 made.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield,† Mk. II**, Cond.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $1,700.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (personal sale, U.S., very good). Price at time: US$1,700 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes (except, two generations previously, for the various types of long Lee that had been used to make the SMLE mk. II cond. forming the basis for the mk. II** conversion).

†† This model was a naval upgrade of existing SMLE mk. II cond. rifles to SMLE mk. I** specifications. The number made is unknown.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. II***, Cond.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes (except, two generations previously, for the types of long Lee that had been used to make the SMLE mk. II* cond. forming the basis for the mk. II*** conversion).

†† This model was a naval upgrade of existing SMLE mk. II* cond. rifles to SMLE mk. I** specifications. The number made is unknown.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. III.††

Schwing (very good): $150 ($195 for rifles with no import stamps).

Manowar (very good): $145-$255.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $482.89 (n=36).

Coggansfield high: $1,780 (live auction, Australia, very good). Oct. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $115 (on-line auction, U.S., all matching, very good). Aug. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $302.15 (n=29).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +59.8 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† SMLE mk. IIIs come in two basic types: (a) the 1907 model, with a long-range “volley sight”, a windage-adjustable rear sight and a magazine cutoff and (b) the 1920 model, with cutoff but no volley sight and no wind-adjustability on the rear sight (though many mk. IIIs show hybrid characteristics). SMLE mk. III prices vary wildly and there seems to be no buyer preference for one type over the other. As shown by the “high” price given above, intact mk. III rifles are becoming quite collectible. A total of at least 6.7 million made of mk. III and mk. III* combined (the records do not distinguish between the two, but clearly far more of the mk. III* were made than the mk. III).

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle, Mk. III*.

Not included in this review.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Rifle,† Mk. IV, Cond.††

Schwing (very good): $125.

Manowar (very good): $250-400.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $755.25 (n=2).

Coggansfield high: $795 (on-line auction, U.S., all matching, fine). Jun. 2006.

Coggansfield low: 715.50 (unknown type of sale, Canada, all matching, very good+ but for repaired butt heel). Apr. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $600.67 (n=3).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +25.7 percent.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The SMLE mk. IV cond. rifle has four subtypes, those converted from (a) MLM mk. II, (b) MLM mk. II*, (c) MLE mk. I and (d) MLE mk. I*. The purpose of the conversion was to produce a model made to SMLE mk. III specifications. Mk. IV cond. rifles are scarce. I have only encountered a handful of sales in four years and I doubt of any buyer would be in a position to be choosy enough as to make a price distinction among the sub-varieties. A total of 98,559 made.

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SM • Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield,† Single-loader Rifle (Indian conversion).††

Schwing (very good): $100.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $530.00 (n=2).

Coggansfield high: $975 (retail, U.S., all matching, fine). Jan. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $85 (gunshow, U.S., presumed fair+). Jul. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $695.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: -23.7 percent.

Note, this is not the same as the smoothbore .410 musket, which is not covered here.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† SMLE single-loaders presumably have three subtypes, converted from (a) mk. III, (b) mk. III* and (c) mk. I** I.P. Though only 7,000 were made, the model is only somewhat collectible. Over 2005-2006, three on-line offerings with asking prices of, respectively, $795, $650 and $650 failed to sell. None of the subtypes is likely to fetch premium over the others.

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SM • Rifle, Lee-Enfield,† No. 1, Mk. V.††

Schwing (very good): $550.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $1,014.53 (n=19).

Coggansfield high: $1,600.00 (retail, U.S., all matching, very good). Sep. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $75 (fleamarket purchase, all matching, very good+). Mar. 2007.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $840.37 (n=15).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +20.7 percent.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 20,000 made.

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SM • Rifle, Lee-Enfield,† No. 1, Mk. VI.††

Schwing (very good): $2,750.

Manowar (very good): $2,000+.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $180 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (live auction, U.S., very good-). Price at time: $US180.*

Last known sale previous: 1997 (live auction, Australia, B pattern, 1930, condit. unknown). Price at time: AUD 1,200.

* This figure of $180 cannot be said to be an accurate representation of the market. The seller thought the rifle was a Lee-Enfield no. 4 rifle (extremely common), instead of its forerunner, the Lee-Enfield, no. I, Mk. VI (very rare).

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† No. 1, mk. VI rifles come in three varieties, the A (1926), B (1929-31) and C patterns (1935). They are so rare that buyers are unlikely to be in a position to be choosy among types.

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SM • Rifle, Lee-Enfield,† No. 1, Shortened and Lightened (Australian trials rifle).††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2004 (unknown type of purchase, Australia). Price at time: Australian equiv. of US$3,285.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A total of 100 made.

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SM • Rifle, Lee-Enfield,† No. 4, 1931 Trials Model.††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): $1,200-$1,750.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The no. 4 trials rifle comes in two subtypes: (a) that with a recess in the receiver wall behind the safety lever and (b) that without. These rifles are so scarce that there is unlikely to be a price distinction between the two sorts. A total of about 2,500 made.

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SM • Rifle, Lee-Enfield, No. 4.

Not included in this review, no marks.

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SM • Rifle, Lee-Enfield, No. 5.

Not included in this review, neither mark (mk. 2: sample arms only).

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SM • Rifle, Lee-Enfield,† No. 6, Mk. I (Australian trials rifle).††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): $5,187.33 (n=3).

Coggansfield high: $5,442 (live auction, Australian, very good). Jun. 2007.

Coggansfield low: $5,000 (retail, Australia, all matching, reblued and slightly modified, very good). Jul. 2006.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $5,105.83 (n=3).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: +1.6 percent.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The are two subtypes of the no. 6, mk. I: (a) that with a standard gunmetal buttplate and (b) that with a rubber buttpad. The no. 6, mk. I is a conversion of a standard mk. III* SMLE and it retains the SMLE’s rear sight. A total of 100 made.

SM • Rifle, Lee-Enfield,† No. 6, Mk. I/I (Australian trials rifle).††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: N/A.

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: N/A.

Last known sale previous: N/A.

† For pricing purposes, subtypes not distinguished by Coggansfield.

†† The are two subtypes of the no. 6, mk. I/I: (a) that with a standard gunmetal buttplate and (b) that with a rubber buttpad. A contemporary of the no. 6, mk. I, the no. 6, mk. I/I is a conversion of a standard mk. III* SMLE but it does not retain the SMLE rear sight, instead being fitted with an aperture sight similar to that found on the no. 5 rifle. A total of 100 made.

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F.3. Other Rifles.

Other • Rifle, Pattern 1913† (P-13)††

Schwing (very good): N/A.

Manowar (very good): N/A.

Coggansfield (average of all reviewed): No sales found or reviewed.

Coggansfield high: N/A.

Coggansfield low: N/A.

Coggansfield average, last edition: $8,225.00 (n=1).

Percentage +/-, this edition over last edition: N/A.

Last known sale: 2005 (personal sale, U.S., near mint). Price at time: US$8,225 (as shown above).

Last known sale previous: 1997 (live auction, Australia, excellent). Price at time: AUD 5,400.

† This model has no known subtypes.

†† A .276 calibre precursor to the .303 Pattern 1914 (P-14) rifle. A total of about 1,200 made.

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There are too many sales of no. 1 mk. III*, no. 3 (P-14), no. 4 and no. 5 (“jungle carbine”) rifles to track, so they are not covered here. There are also too many sales of SMLE .410 single-loader muskets, so there are not covered here either.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:45 am
by dromia
Once again thank you for sharing this exceptional piece of research with us.

I find it fascinating, need to compare with last years now.