New 1903 Siamese Mauser
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New 1903 Siamese Mauser
I've been looking for one of these for a while. One finally turned up at an on-line estate sale:
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Sorry about the poor quality pictures--they are from the auction sight. I'll post better when it arrives.
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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194 ... amese1.jpg[/pic]
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194 ... amese4.jpg[/pic]
Sorry about the poor quality pictures--they are from the auction sight. I'll post better when it arrives.
Re: New 1903 Siamese Mauser
Now that's not one you see every day. Looks like you are going to have to construct your own ammo if you want to shoot it because of the odd 8mm ammo it shoots.
I found this site when I wanted to know some information about it.
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/si ... /index.asp
I found this site when I wanted to know some information about it.
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/si ... /index.asp
Re: New 1903 Siamese Mauser
Do you have one? If so, have you made up any ammo for it and if so, how does it shoot?
Thanks
Thanks
Re: New 1903 Siamese Mauser
No. I don't have one. I was just interested in what it was from your post and did some Google search.
Robert Ball, in his Mauser book, says that because the ammo is not made today many of the rifles that are in collections have been professionally rechambered for the 45-70.
I, myself am totally ignorant about the question. Maybe somebody else will see this string that has some first hand knowledge.
Robert Ball, in his Mauser book, says that because the ammo is not made today many of the rifles that are in collections have been professionally rechambered for the 45-70.
I, myself am totally ignorant about the question. Maybe somebody else will see this string that has some first hand knowledge.
Re: New 1903 Siamese Mauser
Cal,
Your Siamese/Thai Type 46 is in 8x52Rmm .... here are the loads I use with excellent results in mine.
Siamese 8x52Rmm Type 66
Original Cartridge:
Case Length: 2.047 / 51.9938 mm
Overall Length: 2.941 / 74.70 mm
Rim Diameter: .560
Rim Thickness: .065
Base Diameter: .506
Neck Diameter: .348
Bullet Diameter: .321 ... 181gr. spitzer boat-tail bullet, lead cored, a gilding-metal or copper-washed steel FMJ jacket
FPS: 2250 / MPS: 685
Nosler .323 180 gr. Ballistic Tip SD: .246 BC: .357 bullet ... (this was the closest to the original specs above)
Results:
IMR 3031 ... 38.5 to 38.7 grs. = 2250 fps
IMR 4064 ... 40.5 to 40.7 grs. = 2250 fps
IMR 4320 ... 42.5 to 42.7 grs. = 2250 fps
IMR 4895 ... 42.3 to 42.5 grs. = 2250 fps
Case: Remington R-P / Reformed by Buffalo Arms
Primer: Winchester Large Rifle
Case Length: 2.037
Overall Length is 3.037
Your Siamese/Thai Type 46 is in 8x52Rmm .... here are the loads I use with excellent results in mine.
Siamese 8x52Rmm Type 66
Original Cartridge:
Case Length: 2.047 / 51.9938 mm
Overall Length: 2.941 / 74.70 mm
Rim Diameter: .560
Rim Thickness: .065
Base Diameter: .506
Neck Diameter: .348
Bullet Diameter: .321 ... 181gr. spitzer boat-tail bullet, lead cored, a gilding-metal or copper-washed steel FMJ jacket
FPS: 2250 / MPS: 685
Nosler .323 180 gr. Ballistic Tip SD: .246 BC: .357 bullet ... (this was the closest to the original specs above)
Results:
IMR 3031 ... 38.5 to 38.7 grs. = 2250 fps
IMR 4064 ... 40.5 to 40.7 grs. = 2250 fps
IMR 4320 ... 42.5 to 42.7 grs. = 2250 fps
IMR 4895 ... 42.3 to 42.5 grs. = 2250 fps
Case: Remington R-P / Reformed by Buffalo Arms
Primer: Winchester Large Rifle
Case Length: 2.037
Overall Length is 3.037
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Verdun 1916: "Ils ne Passeront pas" "On les aura!"
Fusil d'Infanterie Modèle 1886 Modifié 1893 dit "Lebel"
Vive le Pinard !
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