Query on slings, rifle bags etc

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Query on slings, rifle bags etc

Post by rayinNZ » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:46 pm

I remember reading long ago a story in an august British magazine ("Country Life"?) about a gentleman being stopped by a bobby and asked to produce evidence that he was legally entitled to be carrying a firearm

There was some question of the legality of this, different times!!

Point of this was that he said he was carry the rifle in a sling

So do you in old blighty call your rifle bags slings, especially when they can be slung on your shoulder?

I ask because I have just bought a nice rifle bag (canvas and leather trim) that was used by a local range shooter possible pre war and remembered the story

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Post by Strangely_Brown » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:40 pm

Ray, in the UK a carrying case for a shotgun or rifle is very often referred to as a "slip". i.e. a "gun slip".

Regarding having your ticket (certificate) with you when carrying a firearm the answer is yes you do have it with you at all times!
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Post by rayinNZ » Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:44 pm

Thank you S.B.

Mystery solved

It was a long time ago and although I gather it was legal to ask it was not normal, this would be in the 60s

At the time and for quite some time later it was quite alright to wander about New Zealand with a rifle slung over your shoulder

No longer, one of the reasons for aquiring the gun slip

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Post by ian27 » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:34 pm

Ray is that a Greener GP 12 guage in your picture? In N.Ireland If you are found to be carrying a firearm a Police Officer can demand you to produce your Firearms Certificate. If you dont have it with you and he cannot readily confirm your identity or that you indeed hold a Firearms Certificate, he can seize the firearm and hold it until these details can be confirmed. Obviously in these modern times, a quick radio transmission to the Police Station should resolve the matter as all Firearm Certificate holders are on a database on computer, but if the computer is down, its a

trip to the Police Officers Station with your Firearm Certificate. Always best practice to carry it with you here!!!! :lol:

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Post by DuncaninFrance » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:01 am

Here in France you need to carry your paperwork with you. That includes your licence which has to be signed by your Doctor and the President of the Club. Your club membership which has to be stamped and signed 3 times a year to confirm your competence and the certificate for the firearm if applicable ( not for BP ).

It is also obligatory to carry your driving licence, your I.D. card, the insurance green card for your car and the registration document for your car!

Now you know why Frenchmen have those little handbags!

Being a Yorkshireman I just have deep pockets :lol:
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Post by 24626151 » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:41 pm

Strangely_Brown wrote:Ray, in the UK a carrying case for a shotgun or rifle is very often referred to as a "slip". i.e. a "gun slip".
Regarding having your ticket (certificate) with you when carrying a firearm the answer is yes you do have it with you at all times!
Debateable point, having read the 1968 act and the 88 and 97 ammendments there is no requirement stated to carry your FAC whilst shooting. I have it from my local FEO that especially in ones own county it should be a non issue. I have usually 6 months wait for renewals and I still shoot. No sect 7 permit so no purchasing but no desire from Police HQ to stop me shooting. Find it in the act and I'll retract. Ex-Stab has held forth on this and I believe it to be true. Conditions are different but you dont have to prove ownership. Up until this year a game license was needed and had to be carried but no legal requirement despite the common sense approach to carry your license!

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Post by Strangely_Brown » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:22 pm

Yes your probably right as per a point of law; however how many of us would have the time, and dare I say it..........courage to prove plod wrong! ;)

Regarding the sloe gin, I seem to have lost most of my memory in the car park at the 200 yard point of Short Siberia, a day to remember. :D
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RE: SLOE GIN

Post by DuncaninFrance » Tue May 01, 2007 2:23 am

I have fond memories of Hawkers which I ALWAYS carried in a hip flask while away with the TA. ( Most of my platoon carried hip flasks with various spirits. Even the Colonel used to 'knock' on the top RH smock pocket on a Sunday morning for 'sippers'!

For those who like Sloe Gin may I suggest they also try Pineau de Charente rose which is 17º and VERY NICE INDEED. Sells here for around £5 a bottle.

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