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RE-LOADING

Post by DuncaninFrance » Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:49 am

With all this going on I would not be surprised if a lot of shooters return to or start re-loading shot shells. I certainly think it is going to be a good idea.
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Re: They are

Post by 24626151 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:03 am

PeterN2 wrote:I have been reading posts by US shooters about the cost of cartridges going up alot. An example was a price of $16 going up to $23 in one jump for 100 shells (can't remember what type). They are going up everywhere but I bet the US is still cheaper then the UK.
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Not wanting to get into a willy waving contest but pound for dollar we are closely matched at the till especially when you add state sales taxes etc, the truth is that for head of population we have a bigger market for shotgun ammo than the US and also import as well as export. A lot of US shotgun ammo is made in Italy which is where we buy a lot of ours from. Its the only ammo industry that has grown. On the exchange rate we have always been cheaper and more so in the last 20 years but I suspect that things will even out slightly. As for reloading, its a specialism here, lead carts are so cheap that reloading isnt worthwhile as the most expensive component is the lead shot. I do like many others have a bench set up for rifle reloading and I do have the shotgun kit ready but I use mine for experimental slug loading.
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Post by Tom-May » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:48 am

I would have though that a number of the alternatives mentioned earlier in this thread would caused increased barrel wear - Anyone noticed anything are the projectiiles sufficiently enclosed until they leave the barrel (you can tell I'm not a regular shotgunner*)?

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* Although I have tried shotgunning with muzzle loaders.

OK, I'll avoid using lead - Anyone know where I can get hold of Depleted Uranium Shot? :D
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Post by 24626151 » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:34 am

Most shot is contained in plastic cups until it leaves the muzzle. The only difference is fibre wads which tend to lack shot cups and therefore wear can be an issue but at the cost of the alternatives you wont shoot enough to make a difference in barrel life!
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Post by dromia » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:55 pm

I use lead, as long as you wash your hands after use and don't swallow it, its non toxic.

People have been using it for years with no ill effects so I see no need to change.

I'm sure the ducks and geese don't care, dead is dead. Lead makes them deader than all this low density stuff that some idiots have been using.

Just because some one says something that doesn't make it so.

Now plastic wads, that another thing altogether, don't go with them at all.
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I use plastic wads and fibre

Post by PeterN2 » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:27 pm

I use plastic wad cartridges for clay shooting at a local ground. I only use fibre for use in the countryside. Another local clay ground has a fibre wad only rule. One thing that really annoys me is walking through the woods where I was brought up and seeing spent cartridges littering the ground. I once picked up over 100 from a fairly small area. I felt like leaving a note on a tree to say that if you can't be arsed to pick up your empties buy paper case cartridges. At least they will decompose.

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QUESTION ?

Post by DuncaninFrance » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:44 pm

What has 200 balls and f***s ducks - ANSWER - well I am SURE you know!
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Post by Niner Delta » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:42 pm

Ummmmm.............. 100 perverts?

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Post by 24626151 » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:27 am

I agree with your comments, at the moment I have fibre wad bismuth, damn expensive but I always pick up the empties of every cartridge I fire, I have a huge sack full in the garage.

I will reload them one day. I prefer fibre wad for everything and down here some of our clayshoots are near or on SSSI's so its right to do so!
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