Webley used in multiple homicides

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Post by dogbolt » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:26 am

Many years ago I remember being shown an old box of ammo for a Webley that had "wog-stopper" as a the bullet name. This was a time when political correctness was not even a dream....

The bullet heads were hollow base and hollow point designed to be close quarter foreign body stoppers, when G.B. was still ruling distant lands and peoples!! If I recall right the box was manufactured by Kynoch.
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Post by KCLRPC » Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:05 pm

I remember reading in a very basic firearms book about the 'wog-stoppers'. if I remember rightly, they only existed from 1898 to 1900, and the Geneva convention ruled them illegal. from what I could gather, they seemed to almost explode, so I'd have hated to be on the receiving end of any bullet, but those definitely sound to be in a league of lethality thats all theirs
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Post by Tom-May » Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:47 pm

The idea of "wog-stopper" rounds was to stop a charging tribesman (literally) dead in his tracks.

There were accounts from the early days of revolvers, of handguns which were 'not up to the job'; The tale that comes to mind dates from the Indian Mutiny (1857/8) where an officer armed with a .36"(?) Colt revolver put six rounds into a charging man who still had enough momentum to split the officer's skull to the teeth - Do you wonder the British Army favoured large calibre, soft lead (and where possible, expanding) ammunition in such situations?* (Remember, we had the armoury that gave the World the term Dum-Dum) :razz:

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* With the exception of the Crimea and one or two minor rebellions (Eureka Stockade etc.), most of the action for the British soldier between 1815 and 1898 was against 'native' forces.
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Post by oldcuffler » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:07 pm

Tom-May wrote:The idea of "wog-stopper" rounds was to stop a charging tribesman (literally) dead in his tracks.
There were accounts from the early days of revolvers, of handguns which were 'not up to the job'; The tale that comes to mind dates from the Indian Mutiny (1857/8) where an officer armed with a .36"(?) Colt revolver put six rounds into a charging man who still had enough momentum to split the officer's skull to the teeth - Do you wonder the British Army favoured large calibre, soft lead (and where possible, expanding) ammunition in such situations?* (Remember, we had the armoury that gave the World the term Dum-Dum) :razz:

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* With the exception of the Crimea and one or two minor rebellions (Eureka Stockade etc.), most of the action for the British soldier between 1815 and 1898 was against 'native' forces.
As I recall, the U.S. Military pursued the development of what came to be the 1911 Colt Automatic Pistol because the issue 38 caliber long Colt revolvers would not stop Phillipine insurgents in their tracks during the late 1890s and early 1900s.
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Post by Aughnanure » Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:32 am

There is a story that Mr Adam's .50 cal D/A (only) 5 shot percussion revolver was particularly effective against Russians in the Crimea.

There are photos and woodcuts showing US soldiers in the Phipipines armed with .45 Starr percussion revolvers which they presumeably bought as an effective remedy to the issue .38 of the time. Anyone seen these pics? I forget where I saw them but have always remembered them .

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