The UK Handgun Ban

riptidenj · Post by **riptidenj** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:25 pm

I note the pie in the face the voters of Brazil recently gave to their Socialist President Lula when he put the question of banning firearms

ownership before them. I also note the rejection by the voters of France then the Netherlands of the EU Constitution-the difference, as noted U.S. columist Goerge Will put it "between Parliamentary and Popular Democracy" and I would be curious to see what the results would be if

such a referendum were held in the UK. Even in the US of A there are

an awful lot of closet gun owners who need the privacy of the voting

booth to express their true feelings.

I like the tag line from the new movie "Vendetta"-"The people shouldn't

fear their government, the government should fear its people."

Mk VII · Post by **Mk VII** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:37 pm

They are just implementing most of the Constitution anyway. "The people gave the wrong answer" is their verdict. Same as when Denmark rejected the Maastricht Treaty in 1992. Denmark was told to sharpen up its act, hold another vote, and get the right result this time. Which it did.

riptidenj · Post by **riptidenj** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:42 pm

IIRC after the 2002 Presidential Election in France a Socialist minister

was asked why LePen got more votes than Jospin and she replied "the

people weren't listening to what we were telling them." Typical Liberal-

Socialist mentatlity.

blackisler · Post by **blackisler** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:00 pm

This is what we are legaly allowed to get now and after a long battle with the local police I have finaly got one . it is the first one in the highlands of Scotland but not the last as there is a lot of shooters who were waiting to see how i got on .

dromia · Post by **dromia** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:36 am

Nice looking Taurus Robert.

Have you bent thearm rest out of the way?

What calibre is she in?

blackisler · Post by **blackisler** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:42 pm

Yes Adam I had to bend the arm rest as it was too much of a strain on the arm and wrist when trying to use the sights, it is in 357 mag caliber with a 7 shot cylinder.It was worth the hassle and negative response from the local plod who stated that he would not allow me to have it.

riptidenj · Post by **riptidenj** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:20 pm

Very interesting, I thought that Parliament had taken away your right

to own such things?

Mk VII · Post by **Mk VII** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:32 pm

Same reason your modern production Tommy Guns have that silly 16.5" barrel.

The barrel length and the overall length comply with the legal requirements

Rambler · Post by **Rambler** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:58 pm

So the UK doesn't have a TOTAL ban, just a ban on anything one could actually use for defensive purposes with relative ease. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice revolver, but seems better suited for popping metal gongs at one or two hundred yards than personal protection. I imagine if one did have to shoot an intruder in Scotland, one would get the Tony Martin treatment. Or has there been a change in the attitude that a man who defends his home with deadly force is a murderer? I recall hearing of an MP who was embarassed because he went onto a radio program and promised to introduce whatever bill in Parliament the listeners called in to vote for, and when the result turned out to be a bill legalizing the use of deadly force by homeowners for self-defense, the fellow got quite upset, calling the listeners "bastards."

Does anyone know if this ever went anywhere, or did it get flushed down the memory hole?

Mk VII · Post by **Mk VII** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:57 am

It was Stephen Pound, MP. "The people have spoken - the bastards." It never went anywhere - and there was never any likelihood that it would. Private Member's Bills never get anywhere without government approval (or at least lack of disapproval - and sometime not even then)

The UK Handgun Ban

So it's not a TOTAL ban?