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Re: EY stamp
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:51 pm
by sncstealth
since this rifle has a ey stamp is it not a drill rifle or where would i look for that stamp i just dont want it to blow up on me and that do these marks mean sorry for all the questions
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:52 pm
by Niner
The knox forum is the thick end of the barrel that screws into the receiver as in your two pictures above. It gets sometimes confusing to me what is or isn't part of the "knox form". Some seem to only mean only the flat of the barrel side where the handguard is scalloped out and meets the ring. Some include the ring of the receiver along with the end of the barrel as it is also marked with information as is my D^D Lithgow. I'm sure somebody here can set me straight on this as I'm a bit in the fog on this subject myself as to where the knox form starts and finishes.
I'll attach a photo of one of my rifles to illustrate.
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:24 am
by DuncaninFrance
From Skennerton P 572 Markings................
EY.........LOCATION: Barrel, knox form, receiver, furniture. INDICATION: Only to fire ball amunition in case of emergency.
D.P........LOCATION: As above............................................ INDICATION: Drill Purpose.
I hope this clarifies the markings for you.
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:16 am
by sncstealth
thank you guys
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:38 am
by Aughnanure
One of my favorite subjects; the Nock's Form.
Often erroneously referred to as a ‘Knox Form’, this flat section on the barrel adjacent to the receiver ring on many bolt-action rifles is designed to permit the proper seating of the barrel-wrench during fitting or removal of the barrel. It performs the secondary function of a reference plane for correctly setting the iron sights. The Nock's Form is believed to be an invention of the Nock family of 18th and 19th Century London gun-makers, whose name the feature bears to this day.
From:
http://www.acant.org.au/Newsletters.html#A9
In fact its primary use on the Enfield rifles is correct alignment with the body, there is a gauge whict fits into the bolt way and between the ears for the trigger guard and on its top (above the bolt way) is a ground flat that is at right angles to the verticle centre line. A bridge piece that clears the charger guide etc., has accurately ground pieces at both ends. One of these sits on the ground flat and the other on the Nock's Form; when the barrel is in correct alignment there is no movement in the bridge piece.
Clear?
When I was an Armourer we would protect the Nock's form with a piece of copper or brass shim when fitting barrels so as not to damage it; removing barrels it didn't matter as they were going into the scrap box. The learned quote above is not quite right, besides which the wrench is used on the body (receiver) and the barrel is in the vyce. Most gunsmiths use barrel cramps which are circular and have no provision for gripping the Nock's Form.
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:59 am
by Niner
No wonder I couldn't figure it out.....Nock starts with an N instead of a K.
Thanks, Eoin. I knew you would know the correct answer if anybody did.
I found this discriptive example while rumaging about that shows the variation in spelling and general confusion of geography . It's from a site that claims to be a prime home for linking Enfield Information of all sorts.....but we know how that goes.
History
Lee Enfield No1 Mk3 Target rifle, serial number matches on receiver/bolt, 9651, marked G. Fulton on knox form, has two top hand guards with rear sight infill which places this as an early, BSA made, circa 1920’s. Has H heavy target barrel by Lithgow, bore is shiny with strong rifling and little wear at the muzzle
Look at the photo of where the G. Fulton is stamped into the receiver ring.
A page from Enfield Resource:
http://youstarreview.com/
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:39 pm
by sncstealth
So i cant find any unsafe barrel markings or drill rifle markings looks like shes going to the range i hope its accurate the barrel is immaculate
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:54 pm
by Niner
As I posted before, safety isn't just a matter of not seeing a mark that is a warning. You have to also have to examine it for structural or mechanical flaws. Be sure you are confident in the condition of the gun before you fire it.
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:14 pm
by sncstealth
Yes i know
Re: EY stamp
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:13 pm
by Niner
Great. Let us know how it shoots.