Japanese use of Aribic Numbers

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Japanese use of Aribic Numbers

Post by riceone » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:01 pm

Duncan asked why the Japanese used aribic number on their rifles. I did not know so asked the question over on Gun Boards. You can go there for the reply:

http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.a ... _ID=237070

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Post by DuncaninFrance » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:40 am

Now, about Indian rifles................. :roll:
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Post by tonsper » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:22 pm

The Indians don't put numbers on rifles. They just pick up the rifle after they scalp the cowboys and chase off the cattle. Then they round up brass tacks and pound them into the stocks. I guess you don't get to see many 'cowboy and indian' movies.
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Post by 1886lebel » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:00 pm

I think the reason they used our numbering system was that Japan was at the time most of the firearms bieng built was begining to have Westen Civilization Influence and if they wanted to be part of the "Great Empires" such as Great Britian, France, and others realized that they needed to use our numbering system and incorperated it into thier weapon serial number and rear sights.

As for the designation of the weapon itself Kanji was used along with the Cyrsanthumum as this was symbol of the Emperor and as the Japanese soldier believed that the weapon was issued by the Emperor himself thus Kanji was used.

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Post by riceone » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:19 pm

I have a friend on the west coast that is Japanese and a Japanese collector and he told me that the reason for the mum on the rifles was to impress the peasent soldiers that they had diety in their hands and make them fight harder. The mum is not on anything but rufles. Sounds reasonable. riceone.
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Post by DuncaninFrance » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:32 am

This was a question for a Military Sahib NOT Roy Rogers :cool:
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Post by tonsper » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:45 am

I'm sorry I don't read minds but do the french use theirs anytime?
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Post by DuncaninFrance » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:03 am

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f392/ ... OREIGN.jpg[/pic]

This is from page 14 of the WorldWide Arms Ltd Spring 2007 catalogue which caught my eye as it says that these weapons have Hindi numbers on the rear sights.

On another point, and a question for UK shooters, the description says Antique Obsolete Caliber - Fully Working - No Licence Required

Surely there must be some way of re-loading for these sort of weapons/
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Post by dhtaxi » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:43 pm

There is.
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Thanks for all the details DH!!!!!

Post by DuncaninFrance » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:02 pm

:roll:
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