How about the M16?

Post by **Niner** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:37 am

Now that people are buying up civilian versions like hot cakes, before Obama trys to put an end to the ones made from import parts, this old Army training show and tell film of the XM16E1 is topical and shows the basic design that continues today in however many hundred models there are both military and civilian.

Makes me wish for my old long ago left behind M16 from Vietnam days. More so since it now belongs to the children of the people I shot at and missed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPeYijje8Bs

riptidenj · Post by **riptidenj** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:45 pm

I confess I've never cared for the M-16. I trained in BCT on the M-14, that felt like a real piece of machinery, a real weapon, when I had to carry the M-16 it felt like a child's toy. The best I can say for it was that it was like the M-1 Carbine-a good weapon for someone whose main function is to do something else. Don't care for the 5.56/.223 cartridge either. Only real virtue of the M-16 IMHO is that it can take a .22 RF adaptor.

A square 10 · Post by **A square 10** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:43 pm

i felt the need a while back and added one of sorts -

its the colt M16 upper 67-69 vintage and put it on a DPMS lower with vintage furniture , i have replaced the 556 bolt [set aside] with a ceinar conversion to 22LC , and shoot it regularly ,

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Post by **Niner** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:15 pm

That looks like the "real thing". The front hand grip is the one like Vietnam. However, to be authentic, you would need to remove the scope and the bipod and you would have to put the stap on combat style. In Vietnam, when infantry guys used the strap at all, they would fasten one end to the top sight triangle and the other end would loop over the butt stock, that way the rifle could be carried at the ready pointing forward, hand on grip, strap on shoulder above for support.

Post by **Niner Delta** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:21 pm

The M-16 I carried in Nam had a 3-prong flash suppressor that was used to break the wires around C-ration cases. IIRC

But they were slowly replace with flash suppressor that had a solid ring at the end, like on A square 10's rifle.

Vern.

A square 10 · Post by **A square 10** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:30 pm

thank you niner for the photos and info , i very much appreciate that ,

this colt upper dates to 67-69 , the buttstock w/o trap and HG are about that same vintage but i cant pin them down quite as close ,

my apoligies for the scope - its a rifle i shoot and my near 60 year old eyes no longer see as they did in the late 60s , that bipod was bought as accoutrament and photo aids ,

delta niner , i agree , most of the early rifles were fitted with one of the three pronged versions of the FS , but by sometime in 67 they had gone to the birdcage in mfgr ,

id love to put together a couple real early versions , flat side uppers and nofence lowers with the pronged FS , but alas the rifles are many and the cash is few ...............shame

How about the M16?

How about the M16?

A square 10 that's a lot like the "real thing"