Milsurp After Hours

Mick (ICC) sent me these pictures for you to identify the items, just to let us know he hasn't forgotten about us.





Seems its a tad wet this weather in his corner of Arizona.





No prizes for the correct answer other than being allowed to be smug. ;





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Adam.





Why don't you visit .

The bottom left item is a ventometer, an instrument for lining the sight bar with a white line to aid amount of aim deflection for windage. The botton right item is a combined vernier and ventometer for windage and elevation adjustment. These were in use up until about 1912 when the windage adjustable sight came into use.


The top left ia maybe a rear sight protector? The top right maybe an elevation scale that fits around a rear sight?


Regards


Peter.




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-Peter,


Good on you! Now, just how early do they go? Could they be used on a Martini-Henry for instance, or possibly a MLE. Are they interchangable between various patterns? Thanks.





-Irish Mick


Awash in Arizona

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According to Edna Parkers book on sights, these ventometers and verniers were in use from the 1860s, so they would have been used on Martini-Henry rifles and the Long Lees. I don't know if there were different patterns for different rifles. I will have look it up when I get home as I am at work now.


Regards


Peter.




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Here is a page from the 1911 AG Parker catalogue showing the ventometer and verniers.


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Regards


Peter

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-Peter, et al,


I have just received further information from the 'old man in the barn'. The bigger of the two ventometers is marked, W. Gregory & Sons, London. The bigger of the two sight covers is marked, M-H (Martini-Henry) Patent 2843. The smaller sight cover is marked, Patent 8446, M-H ( as above)or LM.


BTW,he is offering these items for sale. No price because he does not recall what he paid for them.





-The Irish Mick,


Drying out in Arizona Territory

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I have one marked "Jeffery" with the complete address, but it is a Lee one - not a Martini one. As to the other one, I keep forgetting - will have to check... Brought 6 of them from SA last visit, and arranged good homes for 4 of them.

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This is the first time I have seen any of these appertances. I would think that there were originally designed for the volunteers/NRA, as I do not believe that they would have been a regular item of issue. Way to easy to lose, and they would most likely be a chargable item. I may just get on for myself. Does anybody use the ventometers in comp in competition, and are there any instruction as to their proper use?





-The Irish Mick


Arizona Territory


the roads are becoming dusty!

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These verniers and ventometers were used by target shooters on the ranges at Wimbledon and, later, Bisley and, I suppose, elsewhere. They are a target shooting accessory to get a proper measurable allowance for windage and elevation. There are instructions for their use in the book by Edna Parker, A Century os Sights and Sighting Aids. The print is a bit small to scan and post on here. I ordered the book direct from Alfred Parker. See the link.


Regards


Peter.


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-Peter,


Thank you for the information. I signaled them last night, and i am awaiting a reply.





-The Irish Mick


Arizona Territroy

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