Armed Forces Day 30 th June 2012

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Armed Forces Day 30 th June 2012

Post by Dave 101 » Wed May 30, 2012 10:38 pm

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Re: Armed Forces Day 30 th June 2012

Post by DuncaninFrance » Thu May 31, 2012 8:06 am

To be honest, not a lot Dave!! :roll:
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Re: Armed Forces Day 30 th June 2012

Post by Niner Delta » Thu May 31, 2012 5:17 pm

Just curious..........
You have the Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, why not Royal Army instead of just Army?

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Re: Armed Forces Day 30 th June 2012

Post by DuncaninFrance » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:09 am

Niner Delta wrote:Just curious..........
You have the Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, why not Royal Army instead of just Army?

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From Wikidoodah.............."All members of the Army swear (or affirm) allegiance to the monarch as commander-in-chief. However the Bill of Rights of 1689 requires Parliamentary consent for the Crown to maintain a standing army in peacetime. Parliament therefore annually approves the continued existence of the Army.

In contrast to the Royal Navy, Royal Marines and Royal Air Force, the :GBR: British :GBR: Army does not include Royal in its title. Many of the Army's constituent Regiments and Corps have been granted the "Royal" prefix and have members of the Royal Family occupying senior positions within some regiments."
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Re: Armed Forces Day 30 th June 2012

Post by Woftam » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:48 pm

You have the Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, why not Royal Army instead of just Army?
Simple, they pissed-off the King.
In the 17th century occurred what is known here as "The Great Civil War," between the King and Parliament. Parliament won and, in 1649, King Charles I was executed. Eleven years later, the monarchy was restored, in the person of his son, King Charles II. Although Charles II had agreed to accept the powers of Parliament in the Declaration of Breda, there were many who were suspicious. They thought that he might say one thing and then, after being restored to the throne, return to his father's policies. The navy supported Charles, but large parts of the army did not. This was perhaps not surprising, as the army of the time was very much the creation of Parliament and, in particular, of Oliver Cromwell. When Charles was restored to the throne, he proclaimed that, because of its support for him, the navy would henceforth be called the "Royal Navy." Regarding the army, he said nothing. This is why to this day, it is the "Royal Navy," but only the "British Army." The Royal Air Force, which came into being in 1918, had the royal title bestowed by King George V. During Colonial times, the British Army was allowed to use Queen Anne's Red Ensign, however, they were still not considered a "Royal" service.
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Re: Armed Forces Day 30 th June 2012

Post by Tom-May » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:37 pm

The answer is even simpler than that.

In the 17th and 18th Century, the Navy was organised and run by the Admiralty

In the same period, the Army was organised on a regimental system. Each regiment being formed, (and initially, uniformed and equipped) by their Colonels who were issued with a warrant to 'beat up' (recruit) a regiment and were paid per man recruited - the individual regiments bearing their Colonel's name.

In short - the Navy was a single unit under the Admiralty, the Army was a franchise.

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