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Jungle Carbines

Post by Niner » Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:22 pm

I had posted a bunch of these pictures before. It was more to show the slight differences between them.... the nose cap and no nose cap difference being primary. These pictures are a combination of linking as per ezboard and the one in the bottom is loaded from my desktop showing with the arrow the lightening cuts these rifles had.

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Post by bradtx » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:28 pm

Niner, I almost hate to write this, but maybe others will look... :roll:

The handguards on my two follow the same pattern as yours with regards to the metal nosecap or capless. Blunt fwd. face w/nosecap and more rounded without.

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There is , or was a nose cap mystery

Post by Niner » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:45 pm

It was a curiosity to me why some had them and some not.

Some knowledgeable people thought the early ones went without caps and the later had them. But mine are both late production. The one without the cap is BSA 1946 and the other is BSA 1946 also, but in different production lots as serial prefixes are different.

Adam had an opinion on this question in another string that reads rather authorative... but confuses me a bit. :lol:

http://6thofthe31st.com/milsurp/bb/viewtopic.php?t=127
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Post by bradtx » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:12 am

Niner, There is a second variation of nosecap that didn't seem to make production which may be partially responsible for the confusion. It is rounded with a profile similar to a capless fore-end.

Both of my No.5s are '45 Fazs. It seems, at that point in time anyways that it just depended on what the subcontractor provided. It does seem that in '47 most No.5s (reported) had nosecaps.

http://web.infoave.net/~tross/guns/enfield/enfield.htm

Thanks to breugel! :D

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RE: Jungle Carbines

Post by oldcuffler » Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:26 pm

I have a Jungle Carbine that has been reworked by RFI. It definately started out as a true Jungle Carbine since it has all the proper lightening cuts on the receiver and barrel and the bolt knob is hollow. The s/n numbers match on the bolt, receiver stock socket, stock and magazine but it the British manufacturing marks have been completely removed and polished out. There is a RFI mark stamped on the wrist of the stock behind the trigger guard.

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Is there anyway to tell which British manufacturer may have made the carbine based on its present configuration?
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Post by bradtx » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:07 pm

oldcuffler, There may not be a way to be absolutely certain of your rifles manfacturer. Parts may've come from any number of source rifles. :cry:

A slow search in the usual places with a good light and strong optics may be the only hope.

Good luck,

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Post by joseyclosey » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:40 pm

What about these two iron nose babes, both Faz`s. :D

Joe

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